Karen, I just wanted to second Vilma's post that prong or pinch collars, if used properly, are very useful, humane tools for most dogs. As I also thought they looked like a medieval torture device, I was shocked to see at my first Berner specialty that most of the dogs were wearing one!! My Maddie was just beginning the "pulling" problem, and I had tried no-pull harnesses, a Gentle Leader, and LOTS of positive training methods, to no avail. My "stand like a tree" whenever she pulled resulted in her just standing there, gazing at her surroundings, for 10 or 20 minutes -- she just didn't "get" the point I was trying to make that if you pull, we stop.

Anyway, I tried a new obedience class instructor who HATES the traditional choke or slip collar but strongly recommended the prong/pinch collar. I tried it and was amazed at the results. All it took to "remind" Maddie to walk on a loose lead was a subtle, quick "pop." This made the collar tighten slightly all around her neck and quickly got her attention. It does not dig into the dog's neck, and most important it works without pressure against her throat. She very quickly learned what I wanted, and I was able to discontinue regular use of the prong collar. It's simply a tool and does not need to be a permanent crutch if used properly. Maddie has since earned her Novice A Obedience title, and demonstrated EXCELLENT off-lead heeling skills in draft demonstrations and tests -- and both my Berners are wonderful, well-behaved certified therapy dogs.

I learned the hard way that dogs will sometimes be dogs, and walking my two together in public can sometimes lead to blood, bruises, and scrapes on my body. So when I have 200 pounds of Berner enthusiasm and muscle on my flaccid, old arm, they are both wearing their prong collars and I have much better control should one of their best doggie friends suddenly appear down the street. They are, for the most part, well behaved and under control -- but they can also do very stupid things at times. Anyway, I think the prong collar, used properly, is an excellent and safe tool.

Hugs to Stevie -- what an inspiration you both are!

Vicky Whitney in Bozeman, Montana

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