I have a meeting Tuesday afternoon with the execs who are pushing android. I am working on a document geared to non-technical execs, this weekend to address the issue.
I don't know how well it will translate for other organizations -- we tend to be looser than most with security -- but I will be glad to share it with others who ask off-list. Thanks for all of the comments. I got a lot of ideas for my arguments from this thread. -- Art Alexion Systems Engineer Infrastructure Engineering Group (IEG) Resources for Human Development ----- Reply message ----- From: "Dan Mathews" <[email protected]> Date: Sat, Jul 24, 2010 4:04 pm Subject: [Bes-admins] Droid List To: "Art Alexion" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> I think the BES admin needs support from the CIO. The policy needs to come from that level. If the top IT execs do not understand, then it is your responsibility to put together enough info to give them. Dan Mathews CTI Systems Administrator Duncan Solutions, Inc. Phone: 414.847.3747 Fax: 414.847.6747 E-mail: [email protected] Visit us at: www.DuncanSolutions.com<http://www.DuncanSolutions.com> NOTICE: This e-mail and any attachments may contain privileged and/or confidential information that is the exclusive property of Duncan Solutions, Inc. Such information is intended solely for the recipient to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, do not disclose, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and delete this message from your system. ----- Original Message ----- From: Art Alexion <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>; Dan Mathews Sent: Sat Jul 24 14:35:37 2010 Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Droid List You are lucky. That was actually the thrust of my email which started this thread. How does a Blackberry administrator, under pressure from upper management to support iPhone and Android, resist? -- Art Alexion Systems Engineer Infrastructure Engineering Group (IEG) Resources for Human Development ----- Reply message ----- From: "Dan Mathews" <[email protected]> Date: Sat, Jul 24, 2010 3:22 pm Subject: [Bes-admins] Droid List To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Thank you, it is not that I am against them, we just run 100% Blackberry. Dan Mathews Dan Mathews CTI Systems Administrator Duncan Solutions, Inc. Phone: 414.847.3747 Fax: 414.847.6747 E-mail: [email protected] Visit us at: www.DuncanSolutions.com<http://www.DuncanSolutions.com<http://www.DuncanSolutions.com<http://www.DuncanSolutions.com>> NOTICE: This e-mail and any attachments may contain privileged and/or confidential information that is the exclusive property of Duncan Solutions, Inc. Such information is intended solely for the recipient to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, do not disclose, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and delete this message from your system. ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Sent: Sat Jul 24 14:13:46 2010 Subject: Bes-Admins Digest, Vol 30, Issue 95 Send Bes-Admins mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.dataoutages.com/mailman/listinfo/bes-admins or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Bes-Admins digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Droid X (Darhl Thomason) 2. Re: Droid X (Moller, Doreen) 3. Re: Droid X (audit) 4. Re: Droid X (Reardon, Diane) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 09:20:34 -0700 From: Darhl Thomason <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Droid X To: "A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc." <[email protected]> Message-ID: <3481b80550f26940b88c446aec8634d90c46f80...@vanc-exch02> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I think an Android list would be great! I'd subscribe to it. Darhl Thomason | SysAdmin?| Business Technology Papa Murphy's Int'l. | d 360-449-4044 | c 360-607-5617 | www.papamurphys.com<http://www.papamurphys.com<http://www.papamurphys.com<http://www.papamurphys.com>> -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of audit Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 8:35 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Droid X If we need another list for other handhelds, I'll create it on Monday when I have access to the server. Let me know off list if this is needed. audit Quoting "Eggan, Mark" <[email protected]>: > I really don't mind reading them. I created a rule in outlook so > they aren't flooding by any means. > ---------------------------------- > Sent from my BlackBerry > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: [email protected] > <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Sent: Fri Jul 23 08:54:03 2010 > Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Droid X > > Can we stop already? I understand there is a need for information on > this device, but is this the right venue? 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Sent from my iPhone On Jul 24, 2010, at 12:33 PM, "Darhl Thomason" <[email protected]> wrote: > I think an Android list would be great! I'd subscribe to it. > > Darhl Thomason | SysAdmin | Business Technology > Papa Murphy's Int'l. | d 360-449-4044 | c 360-607-5617 | > www.papamurphys.com<http://www.papamurphys.com<http://www.papamurphys.com<http://www.papamurphys.com>> > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of audit > Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 8:35 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Droid X > > > If we need another list for other handhelds, I'll create it on Monday when I > have access to the server. Let me know off list if this is needed. > > audit > > Quoting "Eggan, Mark" <[email protected]>: > > > I really don't mind reading them. I created a rule in outlook so > > they aren't flooding by any means. > > ---------------------------------- > > Sent from my BlackBerry > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: [email protected] > > <[email protected]> > > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > > Sent: Fri Jul 23 08:54:03 2010 > > Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Droid X > > > > Can we stop already? I understand there is a need for information on > > this device, but is this the right venue? 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URL: <http://www.dataoutages.com/pipermail/bes-admins/attachments/20100724/54d73221/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 14:09:18 -0500 From: audit <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Droid X To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" http://www.dataoutages.com/mailman/listinfo/android-chat Cut short a nice day at the beach for this. Hope everyone likes it. audit Quoting Darhl Thomason <[email protected]>: > I think an Android list would be great! I'd subscribe to it. > > Darhl Thomason | SysAdmin?| Business Technology > Papa Murphy's Int'l. | d 360-449-4044 | c 360-607-5617 | > www.papamurphys.com<http://www.papamurphys.com<http://www.papamurphys.com<http://www.papamurphys.com>> > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of audit > Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 8:35 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Droid X > > > If we need another list for other handhelds, I'll create it on > Monday when I have access to the server. Let me know off list if > this is needed. > > audit > > Quoting "Eggan, Mark" <[email protected]>: > >> I really don't mind reading them. I created a rule in outlook so >> they aren't flooding by any means. >> ---------------------------------- >> Sent from my BlackBerry >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: [email protected] >> <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >> Sent: Fri Jul 23 08:54:03 2010 >> Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Droid X >> >> Can we stop already? I understand there is a need for information on >> this device, but is this the right venue? The volume of messages on >> this topic indicates there is great interest, please find a better >> venue. >> >> >> ____________________________________________ >> Dan Mathews >> CTI Systems Administrator >> Duncan Solutions, Inc. >> _______________________________________________ >> Bes-Admins mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://www.dataoutages.com/mailman/listinfo/bes-admins >> http://www.dataoutages.com >> http://www.dataoutagenews.com >> RSS Feed: http://feeds.feedburner.com/Bes-admins >> --------------------------------- >> Bes-Admins mailing list is sponsored by Dataoutagenews.com. >> http://www.dataoutagenews.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Bes-Admins mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://www.dataoutages.com/mailman/listinfo/bes-admins >> http://www.dataoutages.com >> http://www.dataoutagenews.com >> RSS Feed: http://feeds.feedburner.com/Bes-admins >> --------------------------------- >> Bes-Admins mailing list is sponsored by Dataoutagenews.com. >> http://www.dataoutagenews.com >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Bes-Admins mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.dataoutages.com/mailman/listinfo/bes-admins > http://www.dataoutages.com > http://www.dataoutagenews.com > RSS Feed: http://feeds.feedburner.com/Bes-admins > --------------------------------- > Bes-Admins mailing list is sponsored by Dataoutagenews.com. > http://www.dataoutagenews.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Consumer-voted "Best Pizza Chain in America" 2003-2009 > > _______________________________________________ > Bes-Admins mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.dataoutages.com/mailman/listinfo/bes-admins > http://www.dataoutages.com > http://www.dataoutagenews.com > RSS Feed: http://feeds.feedburner.com/Bes-admins > --------------------------------- > Bes-Admins mailing list is sponsored by Dataoutagenews.com. > http://www.dataoutagenews.com > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:15:45 -0400 From: "Reardon, Diane" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Droid X To: "'[email protected]'" <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Absolutely. I would join as well. Is there one for iPhone? Diane ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Sent via BlackBerry ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc. <[email protected]> Sent: Sat Jul 24 12:20:34 2010 Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Droid X I think an Android list would be great! I'd subscribe to it. Darhl Thomason | SysAdmin?| Business Technology Papa Murphy's Int'l. | d 360-449-4044 | c 360-607-5617 | www.papamurphys.com<http://www.papamurphys.com<http://www.papamurphys.com<http://www.papamurphys.com>> -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of audit Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 8:35 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Droid X If we need another list for other handhelds, I'll create it on Monday when I have access to the server. Let me know off list if this is needed. audit Quoting "Eggan, Mark" <[email protected]>: > I really don't mind reading them. I created a rule in outlook so > they aren't flooding by any means. > ---------------------------------- > Sent from my BlackBerry > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: [email protected] > <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Sent: Fri Jul 23 08:54:03 2010 > Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Droid X > > Can we stop already? I understand there is a need for information on > this device, but is this the right venue? The volume of messages on > this topic indicates there is great interest, please find a better > venue. > > > ____________________________________________ > Dan Mathews > CTI Systems Administrator > Duncan Solutions, Inc. > _______________________________________________ > Bes-Admins mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.dataoutages.com/mailman/listinfo/bes-admins > http://www.dataoutages.com > http://www.dataoutagenews.com > RSS Feed: http://feeds.feedburner.com/Bes-admins > --------------------------------- > Bes-Admins mailing list is sponsored by Dataoutagenews.com. > http://www.dataoutagenews.com > _______________________________________________ > Bes-Admins mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.dataoutages.com/mailman/listinfo/bes-admins > http://www.dataoutages.com > http://www.dataoutagenews.com > RSS Feed: http://feeds.feedburner.com/Bes-admins > --------------------------------- > Bes-Admins mailing list is sponsored by Dataoutagenews.com. > http://www.dataoutagenews.com > _______________________________________________ Bes-Admins mailing list [email protected] http://www.dataoutages.com/mailman/listinfo/bes-admins http://www.dataoutages.com http://www.dataoutagenews.com RSS Feed: http://feeds.feedburner.com/Bes-admins --------------------------------- Bes-Admins mailing list is sponsored by Dataoutagenews.com. http://www.dataoutagenews.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Consumer-voted "Best Pizza Chain in America" 2003-2009 _______________________________________________ Bes-Admins mailing list [email protected] http://www.dataoutages.com/mailman/listinfo/bes-admins http://www.dataoutages.com http://www.dataoutagenews.com RSS Feed: http://feeds.feedburner.com/Bes-admins --------------------------------- Bes-Admins mailing list is sponsored by Dataoutagenews.com. http://www.dataoutagenews.com ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Bes-Admins mailing list [email protected] http://www.dataoutages.com/mailman/listinfo/bes-admins http://www.dataoutages.com http://www.dataoutagenews.com RSS Feed: http://feeds.feedburner.com/Bes-admins --------------------------------- Bes-Admins mailing list is sponsored by Dataoutagenews.com. http://www.dataoutagenews.com End of Bes-Admins Digest, Vol 30, Issue 95 ****************************************** _______________________________________________ Bes-Admins mailing list [email protected] http://www.dataoutages.com/mailman/listinfo/bes-admins http://www.dataoutages.com http://www.dataoutagenews.com RSS Feed: http://feeds.feedburner.com/Bes-admins --------------------------------- Bes-Admins mailing list is sponsored by Dataoutagenews.com. http://www.dataoutagenews.com _______________________________________________ Bes-Admins mailing list [email protected] http://www.dataoutages.com/mailman/listinfo/bes-admins http://www.dataoutages.com http://www.dataoutagenews.com RSS Feed: http://feeds.feedburner.com/Bes-admins --------------------------------- Bes-Admins mailing list is sponsored by Dataoutagenews.com. http://www.dataoutagenews.com
