Thomas, we need a solution that is implementable and will scale in 
control/data-plane. As such the solution I outline is standardised today and 
does not need new extensions in control/data-plane. Hence informational draft 
and can be implemented if there is market demand.

With respect to MAC you need to address both directions and does not make sense 
to manage this if it is not required/doe snot add value.

From: Thomas Morin <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Organization: Orange
Date: Friday 13 November 2015 at 09:57
To: Wim Henderickx 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Cc: "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [bess] draft-hao-bess-inter-nvo3-vpn-optionc

Hi Wim,

I agree on the analysis that this proposal is restricted to implementations 
that supports the chosen encap with non-IANA ports (which may be hard to 
achieve for instance on hardware implementations, as you suggest), or to 
context where managing multiple IPs would be operationally viable.

However, it does not seem obvious to me how the alternative you propose 
[relying on 3-label option C with an MPLS/MPLS/(UDP|GRE) encap] addresses the 
issue of whether the encap behavior is supported or not (e.g. your typical ToR 
chipset possibly may not support this kind of encap,  and even software-based 
switches may not be ready to support that today).

My take is that having different options to adapt to various implementations 
constraints we may have would have value.

(+ one question below on VXLAN...)

-Thomas


2015-11-12, Henderickx, Wim (Wim):
On VXLAN/NVGRE, do you challenge the fact that they would be used with a dummy 
MAC address that would be replaced by the right MAC by a sender based on an ARP 
request when needed ?

Is the above the issue you had in mind about VXLAN and NVGRE ?

WH> yes

I you don't mind me asking : why do you challenge that ?


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