Hi Kishore/Sudhin,

From: Kishore Tiruveedhula <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 12:42 PM
To: smohanty mohanty <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, "Patrice 
Brissette (pbrisset)" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, sudeep g 
ggg <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, 
"[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [bess] REG: draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-df-election-02

 Please see below inline...[Kishore].

1. When a new PE comes in the MH segment.
[Satya] Yes, New PE needs to wait for 3 sec. According to RFC 7438, the 
receiving PEs also need to wait for 3 secs. But, ideally, a PE that is going 
from DF to non-DF or non-DF to non-DF should become the non-DF rightaway. Only 
the PE that is going DF really needs to wait for 3 secs. This is not explicitly 
spelled out in the draft but we are thinking along these lines.

[Kishore]  Yes. The new PE need to wait for 3 seconds, but if new PE receives 
the type 4 route from the redundant PE before 3 seconds, the new PE can just 
move to DF immediately (if it becomes DF) just after receiving the type 4 
without waiting for the 3 seconds timer expiry because the other redundant PE 
might have moved to Non-DF as there is no 3 seconds timer on the other PE which 
is moving from DF to Non-DF.
It is good idea to explicitly spell out this in this draft.
[Satya] Right. We will spell this out in the next version.


[Satya] Now, delay of BGP updates is not dependent on the above behavior. That 
depends on the network topology and queueing/processing at intermediate nodes.
With HRW,  a PE coming up will result in minimal disruption of the established 
DF for various vlans (bundles) as opposed to RFC 7438 mod-based.

[Kishore] If the BGP update processing takes more time on one PE and receives 
less time from RR on the other PE, then it may be possible of both PE may 
become DF or Non-DF, so the timer value should be chosen large enough in this 
case.
[Satya] The problem is there is no "cure-all" timer value that will guarantee 
this behavior.
There was a ack based draft sometime back, but it would have introduced 
considerable overhead that caused complications.

Thanks,
Kishore

Thanks,
--Satya
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