Hi Patrice,

draft-shah-bess-l2vpn-yang<https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-shah-bess-l2vpn-yang-00>
  "describes a YANG data model for Layer 2 VPN services over MPLS networks" 
according to its abstract. What did you mean by L2 device model?

There are some overlaps between the models, for example the Service parameters 
on the attachment. The ac-template approach taken in 
draft-shah-bess-l2vpn-yang<https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-shah-bess-l2vpn-yang-00>
 seems more robust and prevents partial definition in the root service model.

Regarding the OAM container that defines BFD for the l2-connection.  An 
Ethernet service that is implemented as VPWS or VPLS will mostly use Y.1731 OAM 
tools and not BFD that runs in the IP or MPLS layers. Maybe the service model 
can hold a basic OAM container or point to an oam-template instead specifically 
calling for BFD.

custom-qos-profile container includes a rate-limit leaf. Ethernet services that 
conform to MEF CE2.0 service definition use a more complicated profile that 
defined CIR, CBS, EIR, EMB color awareness, coupling and more.  Is rate-limit 
leaf meant as a one-parameter abstraction for more detailed MEF QoS profile?

Regardless of the origin of the model, it seems highly preferable to have a 
single model covering all aspects of a L2VPN service.

Regards,
Rotem

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Subject: Re: [bess] Sync between l2vpn service models

Rotem,

These models are fundamentally different.

draft-shah-bess-l2vpn-yang<https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-shah-bess-l2vpn-yang-00>
 meant to be a generic L2 device model whereas 
draft-xie-l3sm-l2vpn-service-model-00<https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-xie-l3sm-l2vpn-service-model-00>
 models the service.
The service model call various device models to enable the defined service.

Regards,

Patrice
   
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Subject: [bess] Sync between l2vpn service models

Dear authors of L2VPN service model drafts,

Can you clarify please the relation between 
draft-shah-bess-l2vpn-yang<https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-shah-bess-l2vpn-yang-00>
 and 
draft-xie-l3sm-l2vpn-service-model-00<https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-xie-l3sm-l2vpn-service-model-00>?

There are fundamental differences between L2VPN and L3VPN services and it does 
not seem right to derive one model from the other. 
draft-xie-l3sm-l2vpn-service-model-00<https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-xie-l3sm-l2vpn-service-model-00>
 made the effort to explain these differences but if the starting point had not 
been the L3VPN service model then it would not be necessary to do so.
VPLS and VPWS are widely deployed in MPLS-TP networks which do not assume any 
IP routing/forwarding capabilities and therefore using L3VPN constructs to 
define L2VPN services is not natural for these applications.

Relating to the conclusion section, the structure of L2VPN service is quite 
clear and modelling it without relying on L3VPN should not be regarded as 
reinventing a new wheel.

Thanks & regards,

Rotem Cohen

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