Hi Linda,

I haven’t read your draft yet. I am traveling now but will plan to read your 
draft over next couple of days and respond to your questions.

Cheers,
Ali

From: BESS <[email protected]> on behalf of Linda Dunbar 
<[email protected]>
Date: Tuesday, October 30, 2018 at 9:19 AM
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: [bess] Comparing using the SD-WAN Overlay SAFI specified by 
draft-dunbar-idr-bgp-sdwan-overlay-ext with the EVPN approach described by 
draft-sajassi-bess-secure-evpn-00

IDR group, BESS group,

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dunbar-idr-bgp-sdwan-overlay-ext/ 
specifies a new BGP SAFI (=74) in order to advertise a SD-WAN edge node’s 
capabilities in establishing SD-WAN overlay tunnels with other SD-WAN nodes 
through third party untrusted networks.

draft-sajassi-bess-secure-evpn-00 describes an EVPN solution for PE nodes to 
exchange key and policy to create private pair-wise IPsec Security Associations 
without IKEv2 point-to-point signaling or any other direct peer-to-peer session 
establishment messages.

I think those two solutions are not conflicting with each other. Actually they 
are compliment to each other to some degree. For example,

  *   the Re-key mechanism described by draft-sajassi-bess-secure-evpn-00 can 
be utilized by draft-dunbar-idr-bgp-sdwan-overlay-ext
  *   The SD-WAN Overlay SAFI can be useful to simplify the process on RR to 
re-distribute the Tunnel End properties to authorized peers.
  *   When SD-WAN edge nodes use private address, or no IP address, NAT 
properties for the end points distribution described 
draft-dunbar-idr-bgp-sdwan-overlay-ext is necessary.
  *   The secure channel between SD-WAN edge nodes and RR described by 
draft-dunbar-idr-bgp-sdwan-overlay-ext is necessary.

Any thoughts?

Thank you very much.

Linda Dunbar
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