Linda,

The draft references RFC 3948 which already covers this.
https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3948#section-3.2

Anoop

On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 4:17 PM Linda Dunbar <[email protected]>
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> Ali,
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> Thank you very much for the explanation.
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> IPsec ESP Transport mode header is :
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> Do you need IPsecme WG to agree to insert a new UDP header between IP
> header and the ESP header?
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> Thank you,
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> Linda Dunbar
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> *From:* Ali Sajassi (sajassi) <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 28, 2020 8:14 AM
> *To:* Linda Dunbar <[email protected]>; [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: Questions about the ESP-Transport and ESP-in-UDP transport
> in SECURE-EVPN
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> Linda,
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> Please see my responses inline marked with AS> …
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> *From: *Linda Dunbar <[email protected]>
> *Date: *Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 5:49 AM
> *To: *Cisco Employee <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> *Subject: *Questions about the ESP-Transport and ESP-in-UDP transport in
> SECURE-EVPN
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> Ali,
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> Just follow up with my question in the BESS WG session.
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> Your draft introduced two Tunnel Types in 5.1: ESP-Transport and
> ESP-in-UDP Transport as below.
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> When standard IP Encapsulating Security Payload (ESP) is used
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> (without outer UDP header) for encryption of NVO packets, it is used
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> in transport mode as depicted below. When such encapsulation is used,
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> for BGP signaling, the Tunnel Type of Tunnel Encapsulation TLV is set
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> to ESP-Transport and the Tunnel Type of Encapsulation Extended
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> Community is set to NVO encapsulation type (e.g., VxLAN, GENEVE, GPE,
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> etc.). This implies that the customer packets are first encapsulated
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> using NVO encapsulation type and then it is further encapsulated &
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> encrypted using ESP-Transport mode.
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> Question 1:  Are you assuming that  using IPsec Transport mode? Instead of
> IPsec Tunnel mode?
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> AS> Not assuming but stating ☺ 1st line of section 5.1 says:
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>  “ … it is used in transport mode as depicted below”
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> Question 2: Your Figure 3 has two encodings, which one is “ESP-Transport”,
> which one is “ESP-in-UDP”?
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> AS> Figure 3 is for ESP-transport and Figure 4 is for ESP-in-UDP.
> Furthermore, section 5.1 is for ESP-transport and section 5.2 is for
> ESP-in-UDP.
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> Question 3: The NVO encapsulation (VxLAN, GENEVE, GRE) can also be inside
> the IPsec ESP tunnel. In that case, which type is used?
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> AS> The tunnel type of the attribute indicates what kind of underlay
> tunnel is used and the tunnel type of the extended community indicates what
> kind of overlay encap is used. Section 5.1 says:
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>        “the Tunnel Type of Tunnel Encapsulation TLV is set
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>    to ESP-Transport and the Tunnel Type of Encapsulation Extended
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>    Community is set to NVO encapsulation type (e.g., VxLAN, GENEVE, GPE,
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>    etc.).”
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> And section 5.2 says:
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>    “the Tunnel Type
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>    of Tunnel Encapsulation TLV is set to ESP-in-UDP-Transport and the
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>    Tunnel Type of Encapsulation Extended Community is set to NVO
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>    encapsulation type (e.g., VxLAN, GENEVE, GPE, etc.). “
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> Cheers,
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> Ali
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> Thanks, Linda
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