Hi Jeffrey and Sasha,
The flows of E-tree services typically are P2MP conections,
But the flows of hub/spoke services typically are MP2MP connections,
the spoke PEs can connect to each other under the assistance of the hub PE.
The hub/spoke services is actually a special pattern of VPLS, whose MP2MP
nature will be persisted.
So they are very different as what Jeffrey has pointed out.
But the hub/spoke secenario is very similar to the AR REPLICATOR/LEAF, IMHO.
And draft-ietf-bess-evpn-virtual-hub already applied a certain extent of AR
REPLICATOR behaviors to the hub PEs.
The only issues remained in draft-ietf-bess-evpn-virtual-hub is that when RRs
exists between hub-PE and spoke-PEs.
If the AR REPLICATOR behaviors are removed from that draft,
I think the hub/spoke scenario can't be well supported because that the RRs are
widely used.
and the AR REPLICATOR behaviors will still be required even if there are no RRs.
And I think the approaches discribed in draft-wang-bess-evpn-context-label-04
can solve the problems caused by RR existence.
Best Regards,
Bob
原始邮件
发件人:Jeffrey(Zhaohui)Zhang <[email protected]>
收件人:Alexander Vainshtein
<[email protected]>;[email protected]
<[email protected]>;
抄送人:Michael Gorokhovsky <[email protected]>;[email protected]
<[email protected]>;
日 期 :2020年08月20日 22:46
主 题 :RE: Hub-and-spoke support in EVPN: RFC 8317
vs.draft-wang-bess-evpn-context-label-04
Hub and spoke EVPN and E-tree are different.
However, draft-ietf-bess-evpn-virtual-hub should address the following two at
least:
* MPLS EVPN can't support hub/spoke usecase, where the spoke PEs can
only connect to each other through the hub PE. Especially when at
least two of the spoke PEs are connected to a common route
reflector.
* MPLS EVPN can't work as an AR-REPLICATOR. Because the AR-
REPLICATOR will apply replication for the ingress AR-LEAF too.
But a packet shoud not be sent back to the AR-LEAF where it is
received from.
Jeffrey
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Subject: [bess] Hub-and-spoke support in EVPN: RFC 8317 vs.
draft-wang-bess-evpn-context-label-04
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Dear authors of draft-wang-bess-evpn-context-label-04,
Section 2 “Problem Statement” of draft-wang-bess-evpn-context-label-04 states
that “MPLS EVPN can't support hub/spoke use case, where the spoke PEs can only
connect to each other through the hub PE. Especially when at least two of the
spoke PEs are connected to a common route reflector”.
I have to admit that I do not understand why support of the generic E-Tree
functionality in EVPN defined inRFC 8317 is not sufficient for handling this
use case.
In particular I do not see why connection of Spoke PEs to a common RR affects
the EVPN behavior (or L3vPN Hub-and-Spoke VPN behavior as defined inSection
4.3.5 of RFC 4364) in any way.
Regards, and lots of thanks in advance,
Sasha
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