Thank you Ali

The text should improve the quality of the document

Regards

-éric

-----Original Message-----
From: "Ali Sajassi (sajassi)" <[email protected]>
Date: Thursday, 3 September 2020 at 18:39
To: Eric Vyncke <[email protected]>, The IESG <[email protected]>
Cc: "[email protected]" 
<[email protected]>, "[email protected]" 
<[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, Zhaohui Zhang 
<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Éric Vyncke's No Objection on 
draft-ietf-bess-evpn-inter-subnet-forwarding-09: (with COMMENT)

    Hi Eric,

    I add the following sentences in section 2 to provide further clarification 
to your point:
    " It should be
       noted that if an IP-VRF in a NVE is configured for IPv6 and that NVE
       receives IPv4 traffic on the corresponding VLAN, then the IPv4
       traffic is treated as L2 traffic and it is bridged.  Also vise versa,
       if an IP-VRF in a NVE is configured for IPv4 and that NVE receives
       IPv6 traffic on the corresponding VLAN, then the IPv6 traffic is
       treated as L2 traffic and it is bridged." 

    Cheers,
    Ali

    On 9/1/20, 1:46 AM, "Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" <[email protected]> wrote:

        Thank you Ali for your reply.

        My comments are non-blocking anyway but I am still not too happy with 
your reply to
        - section 2, I still find the text not really clear
        - unsure whether I understand the reasoning on section 4.1

        Else, happy with all your changes => they will improve the document

        Regards

        -éric

        -----Original Message-----
        From: "Ali Sajassi (sajassi)" <[email protected]>
        Date: Tuesday, 1 September 2020 at 00:25
        To: Eric Vyncke <[email protected]>, The IESG <[email protected]>
        Cc: "[email protected]" 
<[email protected]>, "[email protected]" 
<[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, Zhaohui Zhang 
<[email protected]>
        Subject: Re: Éric Vyncke's No Objection on 
draft-ietf-bess-evpn-inter-subnet-forwarding-09: (with COMMENT)

            Hi Eric,

            Thanks for your review and your comments, please refer to my 
replies inline marked with [AS].

            On 7/14/20, 5:32 AM, "Éric Vyncke via Datatracker" 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                Éric Vyncke has entered the following ballot position for
                draft-ietf-bess-evpn-inter-subnet-forwarding-09: No Objection

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                COMMENT:
                
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                Thank you for the work put into this document.

                Please find below a couple of non-blocking COMMENTs (and I 
would appreciate a
                reply to each of my COMMENTs).

                I hope that this helps to improve the document,

                Regards,

                -éric

                PS: as a side note, I found that this document uses too many 
acronyms even for
                short words (e.g., "SN" instead of "Subnet"). There are also 
very long
                sentences that, when combined with acronyms, make reading 
difficult.

                == COMMENTS ==

                -- Section 2 --
                About "to bridge non-IP and intra-subnet traffic and to route 
inter-subnet IP
                traffic": suggest to clarify the text when the IP-VRF is IPv6 
only, then, (I
                assume) that IPv4 packets will be bridged and not IP-forwarded 
(and vice-versa).

            [AS] the above quoted text is provided as an example and it should 
be clear enough
            Without making the sentence to verbose. 

                -- Section 4.1 --
                Suggest to replace "then the IRB interface MAC address MUST be 
the one used in
                the initial ARP reply or ND Neighbor Advertisement (NA) for 
that TS." by "then
                the IRB interface MAC address MUST be the one used in the 
initial ARP reply or
                ND Neighbor Advertisement (NA) or Router Advertisement (RA) for 
that TS"
                because routers MAC addresses are also advertised by Router 
Advertisements.

            [AS] I don't think the IRB interface MAC address in the initial ARP 
reply can be used 
            In RA because it is a multicast packet - i.e., the MAC address of 
old IRB interface and the
            New IRB interface cannot be sent in a single multicast packet.

                -- Section 5.1 --
                Should also mention NDP when writing "(via an ARP request)" in 
the first
                paragraph.

            [AS] Done.

                In the same vein, please add "NDP cache" to "Furthermore, it 
adds this TS's MAC
                and IP address association to its ARP table".

            [AS] Done.

                As I am not an expert in EVPN, I am puzzled by the math about 
the Length field
                "either 40 (if IPv4 address is carried) or 52 (if IPv6 address 
is carried)."

            [AS] for IPv6, the NLRI has 12 additional bytes.

                -- Section 5.2 --
                This section also only mentions IPv4 ARP table, please add IPv6 
NDP cache.

            [AS] Done.

                -- Section 6.1 --
                Same comments as for section 5.1

            AS] Done.

                -- Section 6.2 --
                Same comments as for section 5.2

            [AS] Done.

                -- Section 7 --
                Good to state "Although the language used in this section is 
for IPv4 ARP, it
                equally applies to IPv6 ND."; even if I would have preferred to 
use by default
                IPv6 ND ;-)

            [AS] yes, the quoted sentence already exist. 

                Please note that in IPv6 there are often at least TWO IPv6 
addresses per MAC
                (one link-local fe80::... and one global); so, "In the 
following subsections,
                it is assumed that the MAC and IP addresses of a TS have 
one-to-one
                relationship (i.e., there is one IP address per MAC address and 
vice versa). "
                is obviously never the case for IPv6. I understand that the 
rest of the
                paragraph explains how to handle the case but it could be 
easier to treat IPv6
                in a separate sentence.

                -- Section 7.1 --
                While about mobility, this section appears to be also 
applicable to Duplicate
                Address Detection but is unclear on what to do when the same IP 
but different
                MAC (i.e., an actual IP address collision). Or is it covered in 
other documents?

            [AS] duplicate MACs are covered in RFC 7432.

                == NITS ==

                -- Section 1 --
                "BD and subnet are equivalent terms" while in the rest of the 
document "IP
                subnet" is often used. If "subnet IP" and "subnet" are 
synonyms, then I suggest
                to keep using one for consistency or at least mention that "IP 
subnet" and
                "subnet" are the same concept (or explain the difference if 
they are not
                identical).

            [AS] Added clarification that "subnet" means "IP subnet".







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