Hi Jeffrey,

Please see Dfh4> below.

Thanks.
Fanghong


From: Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2022 6:36 AM
To: duanfanghong <[email protected]>; [email protected]
Subject: RE: [bess] A new draft for MVPN in IPv6-only network.

HI Fanghong,

Let me pull up the points up here at the top.


Dfh3>  I think you were making a mistake, RT-constrain is an extra procedure 
and cannot run without obsoleting the propagating-along-reverse-path-of-I-PMSI 
procedure. So, I think the solution you considered is with too many limitation, 
only applicable in some specific cases with distinct RDs of  <MVPN,PE> tuple 
and with obsoleting the propagating-along-reverse-path-of-I-PMSI procedure in 
regular MVPN, and may leave the complication/limitation to deployment.

Regardless of whether RDs are different or not, the solution in 
draft-zzhang-bess-mvpn-evpn-cmcast-enhancements  (draft-zzhang) works for 
“non-segmented provider tunnel in IPv6-only network”.
Dfh4>  I don’t think so. If two ingress PEs are with a same RD, Leaf PEs are 
difficult to perform SFS even if [ADD-PTAH] is enabled on RRs as described in 
RFC7716, resulting in which two Leaf PEs selecting different ingress PE send 
C-multicast routes carrying different RT extended community (The global 
administrator fields are with different originator IP addresses of 
corresponding ingress PE) but with a same NLRI key because you set the “Source 
AS” filed to 0 in that document, causing that only one route is selected on RRs 
/ ASBRs and the other one cannot be targeted to the corresponding ingress PE.
Dfh4>  If the RDs are different, your solution is less optimal as you described 
in that document if RT-constrain is not available.

RT-constrain is a well-deployed feature. The 
propagating-along-reverse-path-of-I-PMSI procedures does not need to be 
“obsoleted” (or a better way to say is that existing code will work with 
RT-constrain for “non-segmented tunnels in IPv6 provider network”).
Simply put, non-segmented tunnels in IPv6 provider network” works once you use 
RT-constrain. No new code is needed.
Dfh4>  I don’t think so. The code of C-multicast propagating control in ASBRs 
must also be modified to do not check the existence of Intra-AS AD if “Source 
AS” filed is zero according to your solution, otherwise the procedure of your 
solution cannot run even if RT-constrain is available, because RT-constrain is 
an extra procedure and before it takes part the routes must complete 
corresponding processing of MVPN process in which your zero “Source AS” 
C-multicast routes are processed as invalid routes in regular MVPN because no 
corresponding Intra-AS AD is found.


Dfh3> So, This is the reason why I consider two ingress PE with a same RD is a 
different scenarios, especially in some real deployment cases, same RD may be 
needed and important… Our solution is aiming at those cases and helps providing 
a reliable Single Forward Selection.

Indeed, the RD discussion is for a different issue that is not IPv6 specific. I 
had acknowledged that very early in this email thread.
However, the following solution in your draft does *not* provide “a reliable 
Single Forward Selection”:

   3.  If the Originating Router's IP Address field of the found Intra-
       AS I-PMSI A-D route is an IPv6 address and the root PE and leaf
       PE are in the different ASs, a four bytes distinct value MUST be
       assigned by leaf PE for each root PE, the Root Distinguisher
       field in C-Multicast NLRI is filled with this value and a
       distinct C-multicast route will be send to individual upstream
       root PE.

The only way to provide “a reliable Single Forward Selection” is for the UMH 
routes to carry distinct RDs.
I assume that the above is intended to address the following:


   In [RFC7716<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc7716>], zero RD is 
introduced in BGP MVPN NLRIs to enable

   Global Table Multicast service in provider's networks.  In IPv6

   infrastructure networks, Leaf PEs cannot send two distinct

   C-multicast route to two individual upstream root PEs for selctive

   forwarding, because the RD of the two roots is the same.


Dfh4> In the early part of this discussion, I agreed with you that the RD issue 
is not specified for IPv6. I think it more critical than IPv4 because the 
source AS field cannot hold a IPv6 address, this is why I listed it in this 
document.


Dfh4> I think the main points of what we are discussing are how to send 
distinct C-multicast routes to different ingress PEs and how to provide “a 
reliable Single Forward Selection”.

Dfh4> 1. To carry distinct RDs which is recommended in RFC 6514 is certainly a 
way (not the only one) to achieve the two points, however I think it is no need 
to obsolete the propagating-along-the-reverse-path-of-I-PMSI procedure and only 
rely on RT-constrain, because the propagating-along-the-reverse-path-of-I-PMSI 
procedure is a propagating control of MVPN itself and RT-constrain is an extra 
procedure and not mandatory in deployment. In the propagating control part of 
my document, it described the solution that using the global administrator 
fields of RT extended community (it is a new type of RT extended community with 
both the function of targeting C-multicast routes on ingress PEs and 
propagating control between ASBRs) instead of the source AS field to control 
the C-multicast routes propagation between ASBRs, which can apply in both IPv4 
and IPv6 infrastructure scenarios. I will add some description in my document 
for the cases of ingress PE with distinct RD.

Dfh4> 2. In the scenarios of ingress PE with a same RD, the source AS field is 
used to distinguish C-multicast routes. To provide “a reliable Single Forward 
Selection”, I explained at the early part that I’ll publish a better solution 
without relying on [ADD-PATH].


Dfh4>  To deploy distinct RDs or not is determined by scenarios, a protocol 
design of MVPN cannot rely on only one option of them.

However, it has the following issues:


1.       The problem you wanted to address is not specific to IPv6 or Inter-AS 
or tunnel segmentation, yet the proposal above is IPv6 specific.
       Dfh4> I have explained in the above.


2.       The above solution, even after made IPv6-agnostic, does not work for 
inter-AS segmentation if we still depend on 
propagating-along-the-reverse-path-of-I-PMSI.
       Dfh4> In my document, it also considered the compatibility of inter-AS 
segmentation scenarios, with no modification of the regular MVPN procedure for  
inter-AS segmentation propagating.


3.       Just that each egress PE generates distinct values for different 
ingress PEs is not enough. Say egress PE3 generate 100/200 for ingress PE1/2 
respectively, but egress PE4 generates 200/300 for ingress PE1/2 respectively, 
then PE3’s c-multicast route for PE2 and PE4’s c-multicast route for PE1 would 
get mixed up.
       Dfh4> What I meant in my document is that each Leaf PE use a same 
well-known (or configured) hash algorithm to transform the IPv6 root IP to 
4-bytes distinct value for each ingress PE, or a provisioning method is used to 
globally assign different 4-bytes IDs for each ingress PE’s IPv6 address. I’ll 
detail this in later version.

While the third issue can be easily solved, once the distinct value is 
generated, it does not need to go into the “source-as” field. It can simply be 
put into the RD field. The RD field is really just an opaque field when 
propagating-along-the-reverse-path-of-I-PMSI is not used.

When consider all the factors, here are my observations:


a.       We could really move away from 
propagating-along-the-reverse-path-of-I-PMSI and just rely on rt-constrain. 
That will work for “non-segmented tunnels in IPv6” as well.

b.      Regardless whether propagating-along-the-reverse-path-of-I-PMSI is 
used, it is best to tie the RD to the ingress PEs if you need to target 
redundant c-multicast routes to different ingress PEs. There are ways to do 
that even for GTM.

Thanks.
Jeffrey



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Hi Jeffrey,

Please see Dfh3> below.

Thanks.
Fanghong

From: Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang [mailto:[email protected]]
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Hi Fanghong,

Please see zzh3> below.



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Hi Jeffrey,

Please see Dfh2> below.

Thanks.
Fanghong

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Hi Fanghong,

Please see zzh2> below.



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Hi Jeffrey,

Please see Dfh> below.

Thanks.
Fanghong

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Hi Fanghong,

Please see zzh> below.



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Hi Jeffrey,

In the draft I published, we focus on the problems and solutions of MVPN in 
IPv6-only infrastructure and dual-stack infrastructure. Although the 
"source-as" field length problem overlaps with the one mentioned in your draft, 
I think it does not prevent moving our draft forward.

1.  In our draft, we introduce a solution to do precise control of C-multicast 
routes propagation between ASBRs, not a less optimal one (In your draft, it is 
mentioned that the solution for this problem is less optimal) than regular 
solution in RFC6514.

Zzh> It mentioned “less optimal” only in the context of not using RT Constrain 
(RFC 4684). If RFC 4684 procedure is used, then there is no issue at all.
Dfh> Yes, if RT Constrain (RFC 4684) is used, both solutions can reach the same 
level of propagation control.
Zzh> The procedure of propagating C-multicast routes in the reverse path of 
I-PMSI routes is complicated. We can get away with not using it at all.
Dfh> In some real deployment, operators may not select RT Constrain as a 
mandatory option. In that case, a precise control is needed.


2.  To configure distinct RDs for each ingress PEs, it is not applicable for 
some real deployment scenario because of some provision reason. It does exist 
this problem even in IPv4 infrastructure and become more critical in IPv6 
infrastructure because of above "source-as" field length problem.

Our solution does not try to solve all the problems of ADD-PATH, but it is 
effective for most scenarios when the ingress PEs carries the same RD.



Zzh> Is it that 0:0 RD issue is independent of IPv6 and “source-as” field 
length issue, and the latter already has a (better, simpler and more general) 
solution?

Dfh> The issue for 0:0 RD or two ingress PE with a same RD is not a specific 
problem for IPv6 infrastructure, it seems more crucial than IPv4 together with 
the issue  of “source-as” field length. I’m writing a better solution (without 
enabling ADD-PATH on RRs or carrying different RDs in UMH routes) to update 
another draft 
“https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-wang-bess-mvpn-upstream-df-selection-00.txt<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-wang-bess-mvpn-upstream-df-selection-00.txt__;!!NEt6yMaO-gk!E0cAwbF2FJZ4JBNFtUmdWW8losqIPKA6JoEjREF7yrPtn6CnEcKs788GchHxAQy4znjVDKqH3VvwxKqP5WBFjAsTT6ZM7LJg$>”,
 which a new version will be published before IETF 114.

zzh> BTW, I think you missed mentioning that now the C-multicast routes need 
carry an “IPv6 VRF Route Import Extended Community” that is copied from the UMH 
route, in addition to RTs (one of which matches but is not the same as the 
“IPv6 VRF Route Import Extended Community”).

Dfh> I think only one “IPv6 VRF Route Import Extended Community” is needed. In 
our solution, Leaf PEs sent distinct C-multicast routes for each ingress PE, 
each C-multicast route carried a “IPv6 VRF Route Import Extended Community” 
copied from the UMH route sent by the corresponding ingress PE. This procedure 
is using what described in RFC 6515 & RFC 6514, so we did not emphasize it.

Zzh2> C-multicast routes don’t just copy “VRF Route Import Extended Community” 
from the UH route. It uses that to construct a RT Extended Community �C the two 
are different.

Dfh2> What I was saying is that the main part of the RT Extended Community is 
constructed from VRF Route Import Extended Community.

Zzh2> More importantly, there is just no advantage of using the 
flawed/complicated procedure (of following reverse path of I-PMSI or (*,*) 
S-PMSI route), when the RT-constrain based propagation works well (and that 
should be widely deployed).

Dfh2> In your sentence of ‘that should be widely deployed’, I think you were 
making a mistake to use the key word ‘SHOULD’ which should be instead of the 
key word ‘MUST’. In your considerations, ingress PEs also ‘MUST’ be configured 
with a distinct RDs and the propagation procedures of C-multicast routes in RFC 
6514 also ‘MUST’ be obsoleted, otherwise the RT-constrained procedure also 
cannot work.



Zzh3> By “that should be widely deployed” I meant to state an opinion that 
RT-constrain based VPN-IP (not C-multicast) route propagation is now already 
widely deployed (so using it for C-multicast route propagation is natural and 
simple).

Zzh3> RFC6514 itself actually does depend on that all PEs use different RDs 
(even for the same VPN). That is what I learned from Eric Rosen some time after 
getting into BGP-MVPN. Configuration different RDs is also a common practice 
even for unicast.

Zzh3> If they don’t use different RDs, then Single Forward Selection won’t work 
reliably (even for true VPN vs. GTM) as explained in the GTM RFC. Even for the 
other way of determining upstream PE (based on unicast route), you may not get 
desired result because an egress PE may not get the UMH route advertised by the 
ingress PE closest to it (a RR in the path may re-reflect a route from an 
ingress PE further away from this egress PE).

Dfh3> So, This is the reason why I consider two ingress PE with a same RD is a 
different scenarios, especially in some real deployment cases, same RD may be 
needed and important… Our solution is aiming at those cases and helps providing 
a reliable Single Forward Selection.



Zzh3> With RT-constrain procedure, because the C-multicast route contains a RT 
for the ingress PE, no matter what the ASBRs do, the route will be propagated 
to the ingress PE because of the RT-constrain procedure. Even if “obsoleting” 
is needed (to go with the rt-constrain approach), it is easier/better to 
obsolete the propagating-along-reverse-path-of-I-PMSI procedure that is flawed 
and complicated instead of patching it up.

Dfh3>  I think you were making a mistake, RT-constrain is an extra procedure 
and cannot run without obsoleting the propagating-along-reverse-path-of-I-PMSI 
procedure. So, I think the solution you considered is with too many limitation, 
only applicable in some specific cases with distinct RDs of  <MVPN,PE> tuple 
and with obsoleting the propagating-along-reverse-path-of-I-PMSI procedure in 
regular MVPN, and may leave the complication/limitation to deployment.





Dfh2> It seems that our discussion returns to the first step, which you 
insisted that the RDs of ingress PEs are always different while I considered 
the scenarios of real deployments with a same RD and proposed a more flexible 
solution for these cases. So, I think we can reach a conclusion that scenarios 
of what we discussed are different.



Zzh3> Please see above, and 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-zzhang-bess-mvpn-evpn-cmcast-enhancements-01#section-1.2.2<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-zzhang-bess-mvpn-evpn-cmcast-enhancements-01*section-1.2.2__;Iw!!NEt6yMaO-gk!DnFIzEL2EAnQWk8qFCKO124ZBhg79kDevkNtZBMumkf5b2Q8Kw9jeuX6Ihfs7r50luNdOsg31qgxIrsADKu3Krhz_gyARWcj$>,
 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-zzhang-bess-mvpn-evpn-cmcast-enhancements-01#section-1.2.1<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-zzhang-bess-mvpn-evpn-cmcast-enhancements-01*section-1.2.1__;Iw!!NEt6yMaO-gk!DnFIzEL2EAnQWk8qFCKO124ZBhg79kDevkNtZBMumkf5b2Q8Kw9jeuX6Ihfs7r50luNdOsg31qgxIrsADKu3Krhz_ltaW5L8$>.



Dfh2> Anymore, I think that to limit the configuration or deployment is not 
always a good principle for protocol design, which may leave the complication 
to operators.



Zzh3> I would consider the existing propagating-along-reverse-path-of-I-PMSI 
procedure is not a good protocol design (at least for the non-segmented tunnel 
case) because it is complicated and not needed.

Dfh3>  I cannot agree with you. Propagating-along-reverse-path-of-I-PMSI 
procedure is a propagating control of MVPN itself and do not rely on any other 
protocol / SAFI.

Dfh3>  Fanghong.



Zzh3> Jeffrey


3.    In addition, we also mentioned the IPv4 to IPv6 migration problems, and 
listed some suggestions to control the explosion of MVPN route’s PATHs.

Zzh> Is this an information/BCP kind of document?
Dfh> In this document, it redefined the ‘source-as’ field to 
‘root-distinguisher’ filed, introduced a new procedure to deal with the new 
field, and addressed the IPv4 to IPv6 migration problems, so it is a protocol 
specification and with a intended status of ‘Standards Track’.
Zzh2> I was referring to the optimization of route propagation on the dual 
sessions, not referring to redefining root-distinguisher field.
Dfh2> Both of the procedure are with a intended status of ‘Standards Track’.

Zzh> BTW, is it ok to for a RR to just reflect routes received on v4 sessions 
to other v4 sessions, and reflect routes received on v6 sessions to other v6 
sessions?
Dfh> In the IPv4 to IPv6 migration scenario, IPv4 BGP sessions and IPv6 BGP 
sessions are parallel everywhere and a BGP speaker can detect whether the two 
type of BGP sessions are parallel or not, so when a PE originated / received a 
MVPN route and decide to send it to neighbors, it is reasonable to determine 
which address type of BGP sessions to be sent to by using the infrastructure 
address type of the sending MVPN route, this solution can help control / reduce 
the explosion of MVPN route’s PATHs.
Zzh2> I was asking that if a RR “just reflect routes received on v4 sessions to 
other v4 sessions, and reflect routes received on v6 sessions to other v6 
sessions”, would that solve the problem? Is it that during incremental update 
there could be single-session situations?
Dfh2> Yes, I think it will works well. Without the proposed procedure, the 
number of PATHs of MVPN routes will be doubled by each RR because of the 
parallel BGP sessions between the RR and other devices.
Dfh2> As I explained before, the single-session situations can be detected and 
without using the proposed procedure.
Dfh2> Thanks.
Dfh2> Fanghong.

Zzh2> Thanks.
Zzh2> Jeffrey


Zzh> Jeffrey

Thanks.
Fanghong.
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[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
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Subject: RE: [bess] A new draft for MVPN in IPv6-only network.

Hi Fanghong,

My understanding of the main problem that is pointed out in your draft is that 
the “source-as” field cannot hold an IPv6 address that is required for 
non-segmented tunnels in case of IPv6 infrastructure.
The draft I referred to also pointed out that problem, and gave a solution 
(that also has other benefits) that obsoletes the requirement of encoding that 
IPv6 address.

That’s why I think the (main) problem in your draft is already (better) 
addressed.

Upon further reading of your draft, I realized you also talked about another 
problem:


   In 
[RFC7716<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc7716__;!!NEt6yMaO-gk!CRxUJ5O7pnF1DFfZilrqRplvWUQ4cTP-OWfCGpmEJ_Ra41xbWykb_9Wk5Ccw98vCC_KCVJqqZea37vSGBHoG1qLOkPgHB1MG$>],
 zero RD is introduced in BGP MVPN NLRIs to enable

   Global Table Multicast service in provider's networks.  In IPv6

   infrastructure networks, Leaf PEs cannot send two distinct

   C-multicast route to two individual upstream root PEs for selctive

   forwarding, because the RD of the two roots is the same.

That does not seem to be specific to IP6 though �C we have the same problem 
with IPv4, and that’s why RFC 7716 has “2.3.4.  Why SFS Does Not Apply to GTM”.
The simple solution to that problem is not using SFS, and if it is desired to 
target c-multicast routes to different upstream PEs (e.g. for live-live 
redundance), we could enhance the 7716 procedures to allow non-zero RDs even 
for GTM. That does not need to change the c-mcast format (as RD is supposed to 
be treated as opaque info).

You mentioned problem with ADD-PATH. Not sure if why ADD-PATH came into the 
picture at all. RFC 7716 mentioned ADD-PATH but it is meant to say that even 
ADD-PATH would not solve the SFS problem.

Thanks.
Jeffrey



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Hi Jeffrey,

I have read your draft carefully, as you mentioned in this draft, it is a less 
optimal solution for PE to PE C-Multicast signaling.

In the draft I just published, we describe IPv6-only infrastructure and 
dual-stack infrastructure issues and solutions for regular option B scenario in 
RFC 6514. So, both the scenario and solution are different from the one you 
published.

Thanks.
Fanghong.

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Hi Fanghong,

It seems that 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-zzhang-bess-mvpn-evpn-cmcast-enhancements-01#section-1.3<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-zzhang-bess-mvpn-evpn-cmcast-enhancements-01*section-1.3__;Iw!!NEt6yMaO-gk!An361zOjmlWoNMSf73DSUaS8_rgACyWhpJqXDXIsOskU1Mu_2aAJvWLQcqzYMgIYjZ0i9ZWt3JEeKLEWNckNoq6_VOuxU5Iz$>
 talked about the problems and a more general solution.

That draft also has other enhancements considerations. It has stalled but looks 
like we should get it going.

Thanks.
Jeffrey



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duanfanghong
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2022 8:24 AM
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Cc: Xiejingrong (Jingrong) 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; Gengxuesong (Geng 
Xuesong) <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; Wangheng 
(MCAST, P&S) <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: [bess] A new draft for MVPN in IPv6-only network.

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Hi All,

  MVPN(RFC 6513/RFC 6514/RFC 6515) faces some problems in IPv6-only networks, 
especially in the non-segmented inter-AS scenario and IPv4 to IPv6 migration 
scenario.
  We have published a new draft 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-duan-bess-mvpn-ipv6-infras/<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-duan-bess-mvpn-ipv6-infras/__;!!NEt6yMaO-gk!An361zOjmlWoNMSf73DSUaS8_rgACyWhpJqXDXIsOskU1Mu_2aAJvWLQcqzYMgIYjZ0i9ZWt3JEeKLEWNckNoq6_VHqmJjHC$>,
 aiming to solve these problems.

  Please provide your valuable comments and help evolving it further.

  Thanks.

Regards,
Fanghong
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