Hi Neeraj,

Yes, version -13 looks good.

Thanks,
Donald
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 Donald E. Eastlake 3rd   +1-508-333-2270 (cell)
 2386 Panoramic Circle, Apopka, FL 32703 USA
 d3e...@gmail.com

On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 1:21 PM Neeraj Malhotra (nmalhotr)
<nmalh...@cisco.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi Donald,
>
>
>
> Thanks again for the additional points. I have addressed all of the 
> additional comments below in the latest rev13. Please do let me know if there 
> is any additional input before we can move further.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Neeraj
>
>
>
> From: Donald Eastlake <d3e...@gmail.com>
> Date: Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 10:53 AM
> To: Neeraj Malhotra (nmalhotr) <nmalh...@cisco.com>
> Cc: bess-cha...@ietf.org <bess-cha...@ietf.org>, 
> draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobility....@ietf.org 
> <draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobility....@ietf.org>, rtg-...@ietf.org 
> <rtg-...@ietf.org>, BESS <bess@ietf.org>
> Subject: Re: RtgDir Early review: 
> draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobility-10.txt
>
> Hi Neeraj,
>
>
>
> Sorry for the delay in responding.
>
>
>
> Generally my comments have been incorporated and, I think, all my issues 
> addressed. However, some problems were introduced by the changes and there 
> are some nits:
>
> - The RFC 2119 & 8174 boilerplate language should presumably be in Section 2 
> but has disappeared from the draft.
>
> - Square bracketed references are not allowed in the Abstract. You need to 
> change those in the Abstract back to just "RFC 7432" or perhaps "RFC 7432bis".
>
> - Although in my comments I said the draft should be shown as updating "RFC 
> 7432", the Updates: line on the title page takes only numbers so it should 
> just say "7432".
>
>
>
> Also, the references to RFC 826 and RFC 4861 need the space removed at the 
> square bracketed reference in the text body and to be added to the References 
> section
>
> and you should update references:
>
> draft-ietf-bess-evpn-inter-subnet-forwarding -> RFC 9135
>
> draft-ietf-bess-evpn-proxy-arp-nd -> 9161
>
>
>
> I have no idea if the reason you state will be good enough for the IESG to 
> allow >5 authors.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
> Donald
> ===============================
>  Donald E. Eastlake 3rd   +1-508-333-2270 (cell)
>  2386 Panoramic Circle, Apopka, FL 32703 USA
>  d3e...@gmail.com
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 15, 2023 at 4:00 PM Neeraj Malhotra (nmalhotr) 
> <nmalh...@cisco.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi Donald,
>
>
>
> Rev12 of the draft also takes care of the missing note with respect to six 
> authors on the draft. Please do let me know if there is anything else beyond 
> the earlier review comments that needs to be addressed.
>
>
>
> If not, would like to request on behalf of all authors to move this forward.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Neeraj
>
>
>
> From: Neeraj Malhotra (nmalhotr) <nmalh...@cisco.com>
> Date: Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 4:23 PM
> To: Donald Eastlake <d3e...@gmail.com>, bess-cha...@ietf.org 
> <bess-cha...@ietf.org>, 
> draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobility....@ietf.org 
> <draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobility....@ietf.org>
> Cc: rtg-...@ietf.org <rtg-...@ietf.org>, BESS <bess@ietf.org>
> Subject: Re: RtgDir Early review: 
> draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobility-10.txt
>
>
>
> Hi Donald,
>
>
>
> Many thanks for the details review and comments. I have published version 11 
> of the document that incorporates all of your comments. Please also see 
> inline below for some additional clarifications.
>
>
>
> This document repeatedly says that it may be considered a clarification of 
> RFC 7432. I believe it is true that the behavior specified in this document 
> is permitted by RFC 7432 but other behaviors are permitted and perhaps 
> common. In order to handle the mobility cases covered in this document the 
> behaviors in the document would have to be implemented or some other solution 
> adopted. Thus I think the title page header should show this document as 
> updating RFC 7432 and this should be mentioned in the Abstract and 
> Introduction.
>
>
>
> [NM]: Ack. I have updated the text in the abstract and introduction sections 
> to say that this document updates sequence number procedures defined in 
> [RFC7432] in addition to the title page header.
>
>
>
> It seems to me that the last paragraph of Section 7.2 ignores the case where 
> Mx-IPx with sequence number N movez to Mz-IPx where child IP-MACs under Mz 
> were currently being advertised with sequence number M where M > N. The 
> paragraph says the new Mz sequence number must be incremented to N+1 but if 
> M>N I think it must be incremented to M+1. I have suggested changes to the 
> last two paragraphs of Section 7.2 in the attached.
>
>
>
> [NM]: that’s a really good catch. A later section (8) does cover this but the 
> example in section 7.2 was missing this condition. Updated.
>
>
>
> Drafts should generally be worded so the text will be correct in the final 
> RFC. So both occurrences of "proposed" in this draft should be replaced by 
> "specified" or "defined" and occurrences of "draft" in the body text should 
> be replaced with "document".
>
>
>
> [NM] updated.
>
>
>
> Section 2.1 lists subsequent sections as Informative or Normative but omits 
> Sections 3 and 7. I think Section 3 is Informative. The right category for 
> Section 7 is a bit unclear but I'm inclined towards normative.
>
>
>
> [NM]: Updated as above – except that I am also a bit unclear if section 7 
> should be listed as normative as it is doing some ground work for the 
> specifications in subsequent normative sections using some examples but is 
> not meant to provide a complete specification. I have left it out for now, 
> but happy to include it as normative if needed.
>
>
>
> Section 10.2 refers to section 6.1 but there isn't any section 6.1. The 
> bullet point in Section 10.2 seems essentially incomplete: What "MUST be 
> higher than the "Mz" sequence number"?
>
> In the last sentence of Section 4.3.1, it is not completely clear what "It" 
> refers to. Assuming it is the interpretation in the previous sentence, I 
> suggest "It could be interpreted as" -> "This interpretation could be 
> considered".
>
> "GW devices" occurs only once in this document in Section 2 and GW is never 
> expanded. I suggest, assuming this is correct, that the phrase be replaced 
> with "PE devices".
>
> In section 9, since it is not expanded and not listed in the glossary, I 
> think "EXT-COMM" -> "Extended Community".
>
> Based on the usual order of RFC Sections and the RFC Editor's recommended 
> table of contents, I think Sections 1 and 2 should be swapped.
>
> The requirements language boilerplate at the beginning of Section 1 needs to 
> be updated to the latest version also normatively referencing RFC 8174.
>
>
>
> [NM]: incorporated all of the above comments and all inline changes in the 
> marked-up document.
>
>
>
> The document references RFC 7432 but I think it should reference the 
> rfc7432bis draft instead.
>
>
>
> [NM]: updated the reference link to point to RFC7432bis.
>
>
>
> I am doubtful that there are truly no new security considerations. At a 
> minimum, I would think the Security Consideration section (section 11) should 
> refer readers to the Security Considerations sections of [EVPN-IRB] and 
> rfc7432bis and should state that the methods specified in this document will 
> increase the consumption of sequence numbers.
>
>
>
> [NM]: added security section.
>
>
>
> RFCs are generally limited to a maximum of five authors. This document lists 
> six but does say why it needs to list that many. This could be in a first 
> page note to be deleted before publication.
>
>
>
> [NM]: missed adding this – let me wait a couple of days in case there are any 
> additional comments and if not, update this by end of this week.
>
>
>
> Nits:
>
> Abstract: "Procedure to handle host mobility" -> "The procedure to handle 
> host mobility"
>
> Section 2, first sentence: "EVPN-IRB enables capability ..." -> "EVPN-IRB 
> enables the capability ...
>
> Section 2: "Purpose of this draft is to define additional ..." => "This 
> document defines additional ... "
>
> Section 4.3.1: "Complication with this ..." -> "The complication with this 
> ..."
>
> Section 8.8: "This sections is to be treated as optional ..." -> "This 
> section is optional ..."
>
> Although the above stuck out a bit more to me, there are many other nits 
> including some spelling typos and a duplicated word, so I went through 
> marking what I consider to be fixes and these are shown in the attached.
>
>
>
> [NM]: incorporated all of the above comments and all inline changes in the 
> marked-up document.
>
>
>
> I hope this review is helpful.
>
>
>
> [NM]: absolutely, a much cleaner read.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Neeraj

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