Stephen,

Thank you very much for the comments.
Please see the resolution below.

Linda

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From: Stephen Farrell via Datatracker <[email protected]>
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Subject: Secdir last call review of draft-ietf-bess-bgp-sdwan-usage-19

Reviewer: Stephen Farrell
Review result: Has Issues

I looked at the diff from -15 to -19.

I think the main security issue of depending on BGP over TLS remains - that 
seems almost fictional (is it?), whereas the shepherd write-up says: "...this 
draft is simply describing the usage of existing technologies standardised 
within bess to SD-WAN." I see Roman's existing discuss already covers this.

I note that 
https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdatatracker.ietf.org%2Fdoc%2Fdraft-wirtgen-bgp-tls%2F&data=05%7C02%7Clinda.dunbar%40futurewei.com%7C865a98f23bb64f96819f08dc23f79b99%7C0fee8ff2a3b240189c753a1d5591fedc%7C1%7C0%7C638424793593072100%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=WGKAHNvuivJbVIe6HvAU4Eeju741Dw9x70yVlpIpwH4%3D&reserved=0
 was posted since I did the review of -15 of this draft, but that seems to be a 
fairly brief -00 individual submission. Presumably that work would have to have 
progressed significantly before this draft could reflect reality.

As this draft is aiming to become an informational RFC, I guess one could 
rewrite the sections mentioning TLS to say that BGP/TLS is needed for this to 
be secure, is not available today, but is something that is being developed 
(e.g. referring to draft-wirtgen-bgp-tls). However, doing that before adoption 
of a work item for BGP/TLS by some routing WG might well be considered 
premature and overly optimistic?

[Linda] Thank you very much for the suggestion. This draft operates under the 
assumption that a secure channel exists between the SD-WAN controller and the 
SD-WAN edges. In the context of extending an VPN network to  the SD-WAN 
scenario, this secure channel can leverage the operator's primary management 
channel designed for VPN control. Consequently, there is no strict requirement 
for BGP over TLS. As a result, we can remove all references to TLS from the 
document.

In the "Security Considerations", is it beneficial to add a discussion of the 
security issue of using BGP over TLS?

Linda



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