Stephane,
PIM and BESS WG drafts have been updated with suggested change from "PCE"
to "controller".

-Rishabh

On Mon, Jul 7, 2025 at 10:42 AM Rishabh Parekh <risha...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Stephane,
> RFC 9524, the base for both the PIM and BESS WG drafts, only uses the term
> "PCE" in the text, but PCE is just used as an example of a control plane to
> establish Replication segments. Let me see how I can incorporate the
> "controller" replacement in PIM and BESS drafts.
>
> -Rishabh
>
> On Mon, Jul 7, 2025 at 8:33 AM Stephane Litkowski (slitkows) <
> slitk...@cisco.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Rishabh.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Rishabh Parekh <risha...@gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Monday, July 7, 2025 4:48 PM
>> *To:* slitkows.i...@gmail.com
>> *Cc:* Stephane Litkowski (slitkows) <slitk...@cisco.com>;
>> draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-evpn-sr-p...@ietf.org; bess@ietf.org;
>> pim-cha...@ietf.org
>> *Subject:* Re: [bess] Re: Chair review of
>> draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-evpn-sr-p2mp
>>
>>
>>
>> Stephane,
>>
>> I prefer the second option i.e. "Controller/PCE". However it maybe
>> cumbersome to read this frequently in the documents, so I think we should
>> use "Controller" and describe PCE as an example. I will edit both of the
>> drafts for this change.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Rishabh
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 7, 2025 at 1:33 AM <slitkows.i...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> (Adding PIM chairs so they are informed)
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Rishabh,
>>
>>
>>
>> I discussed offline with PCE chairs, and they agree that it’s better to
>> use “Controller” or “Controller/PCE” as PCE notion is tied now to PCEP
>> protocol.
>>
>> Likely the PIM draft needs to be updated too.
>>
>>
>>
>> Brgds,
>>
>>
>>
>> Stephane
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Rishabh Parekh <risha...@gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Friday, June 27, 2025 6:55 PM
>> *To:* Stephane Litkowski (slitkows) <slitkows=40cisco....@dmarc.ietf.org>
>> *Cc:* draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-evpn-sr-p...@ietf.org; bess@ietf.org
>> *Subject:* [bess] Re: Chair review of draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-evpn-sr-p2mp
>>
>>
>>
>> Stephane,
>>
>>
>>
>> Inline @ [RP]
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 18, 2025 at 2:01 AM Stephane Litkowski (slitkows) <slitkows=
>> 40cisco....@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi authors,
>>
>>
>>
>> Please find below my chair/shepherd’s review of
>> draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-evpn-sr-p2mp.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Introduction:
>>
>>
>>
>>    - “A SR P2MP tree is defined by a SR P2MP Policy and instantiated via
>>    a PCE”
>>
>>
>>    - I would use the name controller instead of PCE. PCE is really tied
>>       to PCEP protocol IMO. If we agree, then you should change it across the
>>       doc. I appears in other sections too.
>>
>>
>>
>> [RP] This draft is based on the PIM WG SR P2MP policy draft
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pim-sr-p2mp-policy/ which
>> describes use of PCE to compute P2MP trees. Section 4.4 of that draft
>> clarifies that various protocols, such as PCEP, BGP etc. can be used
>> between PCE and PCC. IMO, it is appropriate to use PCE in this draft.
>>
>>
>>
>> Section 2:
>>
>>    - “A Replication segment of a SR P2MP tree can be instantiated…”
>>
>>
>>    - Shoudln’t you provide informational refs here ?
>>
>>
>>
>> [RP] The preceding text provides references for both Replication segments
>> (RFC 9524) SR P2MP tree (draft-ietf-pim-sr-p2mp-policy). Isn't that
>> sufficient.
>>
>>
>>
>> Section 3:
>>
>>    - I would enhance the tunnel-type description with a list, something
>>    like
>>
>>
>>
>> “   *   Tunnel Type:
>>
>> ·         0x0c for SR-MPLS P2MP tree
>>
>> ·         TBD for SRv6 P2MP Tree
>>
>> “
>>
>>
>>
>> Section 3.1.2
>>
>> s/”Domain- wide”/”Domain-wide” (remove space)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Section 4.1.1
>>
>>
>>
>> Use an XML reference for RFC6514 Section 9.1.1 instead of hardcoding in
>> text. (same in 4.1.2, 4.2.1, 4.2.2, 4.3.2…).
>>
>>
>>
>> [RP] These are "external" (eref as described in
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc7991#section-2.24)  references,
>> which are rendered appropriately as URI links in HTML format and with URI
>> text in TXT format.
>>
>>
>>
>> When you refer to “condition (c)”, it’s not clear, where it’s defined.
>>
>>
>>
>> [RP] Added reference to Section 9.1.1 RFC 6514
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Section 10
>>
>>
>>
>> Please fix last name of Luc Andre (there are two “t” instead of t, it
>> should be Burdet).
>>
>>
>>
>> [RP] Fixed.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>> Stephane
>>
>>
>>
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