Thanks, Chris.
Your remarks elsewhere appear to show that you expect users to
exploit the project menu rather than the edit menu.
I've always used the edit menu - it's never occurred to me that I
should use the project menu. I'd thought it was to be used for
developing stand-alone applications; I did use it nearly 20 years
ago for an application I rolled out at work for several
non-programmer food-scientist colleagues, but I hadn't seen its
point for small scripts run within a J environment.
So- do you deprecate my method of use? - given a mathematical
(usually) problem, ctrl-N to open a new edit tab; type in verbs and
nouns and NB. comments, and alt-R W or ctrl-L to (re)load the script,
run a function or many, go back to the edit window and change a
few things etc. At some stage, usually soon after creating the edit
window, I've saved as ...ijs in ~user.
I'm not aware of any recent advice or instruction on using the Project
menu, but I must admit I hadn't been looking for it!
I know other modern IDEs expect me to use projects etc - I invariably
misunderstand them and get in a frightful muddle, and try to persuade
the IDE to let me do compile and run, or load and go when it's Salford
(now Silverfrost) Fortran.
Thanks for all the help,
Mike
On 25/07/2015 14:29, chris burke wrote:
1.
As for 0) - I (nearly) always want to open in ~user, so have to go up a
level every time I use open (in editor) - or perhaps the Edit open menu
could include an Open User option as does the Term window.
I was concerned that the File menus would have too many entries, but
perhaps both in Edit and Term, it should have the current "Open temp
(Ctrl+O)" plus a subdirectory "Open in directory" which would point to all
the standard directories (user/addons/system/home/current/last used).
2.
I think one such oddity is that if you create a new script and save it,
it doesn't appear next time in recent files - that list seems reserved to
files previously opened, not created.
Right. I see that a new Temp appears in recent, but not the "Save As"
script. This needs to be fixed.
3.
Another oddity is when I close a file in the editor when several script
files are open and tabbed. I think the tab keeps the name of the closed
file, not the file that gets revealed - that might not be quite correct,
but something similar, and unexpected, happens.
Thanks for pointing it out. The tab name is OK, but the window title needs
to be updated.
On 25 July 2015 at 01:56, Mike Day <[email protected]> wrote:
I agree with Jan-Pieter:
As for 0) - I (nearly) always want to open in ~user, so have to go up a
level
every time I use open (in editor)
- or perhaps the Edit open menu could include an Open User option as does
the Term window.
and re 1)- various odd things happen which one means to record and forgets.
They're irritating but it's not of course world-shaking if they remain.
I think one such oddity is that if you create a new script and save it,
it doesn't
appear next time in recent files - that list seems reserved to files
previously
opened, not created.
Another oddity is when I close a file in the editor when several script
files
are open and tabbed. I think the tab keeps the name of the closed file,
not the file that gets revealed - that might not be quite correct, but
something
similar, and unexpected, happens.
Thanks,
Mike
On 25/07/2015 08:45, Jan-Pieter Jacobs wrote:
I've got some other file related ideas I've been thinking of sending in:
0) I would find it very nice if we would have file>open open either the
current directory (where J was launched) or the last directory a file has
been opened in. Now the default (and only option as far as I can see) is
opening in ~temp. As temp is meant for temporary files, most of my files
are stored elsewhere on my disk. This could save a lot of time navigating
around.
1) There's a slight bug in updating the window title in the editor: if a
file is closed, the window title is not updated accordingly.
Kind regards,
Jan-Pieter
2015-07-25 1:46 GMT+02:00 'Pascal Jasmin' via Beta <[email protected]>:
As a compromise, how about adding files I create with New (in editor) to
recent files?
Usually the only files I would open through menus are in system/addons.
If I create 20 new files since the last time I opened an addon, then I
probably don't need that older file in my list. In most versions of J, I
do not have 20 files in my recent list.
----- Original Message -----
From: chris burke <[email protected]>
To: Beta forum <[email protected]>
Cc:
Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Jbeta] recent files
We could do this, but I was concerned that adding all the files opened in
normal use of the editor would swamp the recent files list. Usually, I
would only be interested in files opened outside the editor.
After all, it is easy to navigate to any file recently opened in the
editor, with the recent project list and the fact that the opened file
state is retained with each project.
On 24 July 2015 at 08:10, 'Pascal Jasmin' via Beta <[email protected]>
wrote:
could files loaded from the editor's files tab (double click in left
pane)
show up in the recent files list (ctrl-G)?
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