But this issue is not happening when jqt is sitting in a tight loop. It's happening when jqt is sitting idle at the command prompt.
And I don't see the value of expecting it in this context. Thanks, -- Raul On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 9:13 PM bill lam <[email protected]> wrote: > IMO this is expected for a single thread running a tight loop. > If the thread is running in a tight loop, it can't do anything > (including processing the event queue) until the tight loop ended. > > Either user executing some wd'msgs' inside the tight loop at > interval. > > Or runing the jqt ide in the UI thread and running the J Engine > in a separate thread. This is doable but this require some efforts. > > Sat, 16 Nov 2019, Raul Miller написал(а): > > The behavior is reasonable if losing events is reasonable. > > > > There should have been a previous event invalidating the entire window. > > > > It might be reasonable to synthesize such an event when the window has > been > > idle for a while? > > > > Thank, > > > > -- > > Raul > > > > On Friday, November 15, 2019, bill lam <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I suspect the behavior is reasonable. refresh event is > > > smart enough to update not the entire windows, but only > > > portions that it thinks should be updated. > > > > > > Thu, 14 Nov 2019, Raul Miller написал(а): > > > > I have experimented some more with this issue (it still occurs under > > > > the current beta-p with the current ide/qt implementation, and it > > > > happens reliably for me, on long running J instances). > > > > > > > > And an interesting defect is that if my cursor was partway down in > the > > > > jqt evaluation window, I can start typing, and the window goes from > > > > completely transparent to having normal J content from that point in > > > > the window on down. However, the part of the screen *above* the > cursor > > > > remains "behind" other content. > > > > > > > > Specifically: I can drag a terminal window over the jqt window (and > > > > it covers the jqt window), and then when I click on an exposed part > of > > > > the jqt window, the part of the window above where my cursor was > when > > > > I started typing into jqt remains *behind* the terminal window, while > > > > the part of the window from where my cursor was on down to the bottom > > > > becomes above that terminal window. If you'd like me to upload a > > > > screenshot of this to some location, I can, but hopefully my > > > > description here is adequate? > > > > > > > > (Is it relevant that the terminal window is set to 95% opacity when > > > > it's not in focus?) > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Raul > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 12:07 PM Raul Miller <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > This shouldn't matter, because the application was idle (sitting at > > > > > the prompt waiting for commands). > > > > > > > > > > That said, I've also upgraded to j901 beta-p, so maybe that will > have > > > > > addressed something relevant to this issue. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Raul > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 5:57 PM bill lam <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > jqt is a single threaded application, ie it has only the main > thread > > > (UI > > > > > > thread). J engine also runs on the main thread so that it can > block > > > UI > > > > > > events such as paint. > > > > > > > > > > > > You will also notice there is not session output if running a > tight > > > loop. A > > > > > > workaround is to run wd'msgs' at some interval to let pending UI > > > events has > > > > > > a chance to be processed. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 6, 2019, 2:35 AM Raul Miller <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Engine: j901/j64avx2/darwin > > > > > > > Beta-m: commercial/2019-10-02T11:28:59 > > > > > > > Library: 9.01.11 > > > > > > > Qt IDE: 1.8.4/5.12.5 > > > > > > > Platform: Darwin 64 > > > > > > > Installer: J901 install > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When I come back to a long running JQt session the editor > has... > > > > > > > transparency. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some lines of text in the editor will be visible, but the rest > > > shows > > > > > > > content from other windows. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can scroll the window to make the content reappear (once I > > > recognize > > > > > > > what's going on - before that, I don't know if it's J that's > > > messing > > > > > > > up or something else), and -- since it's a long running > process -- > > > I'm > > > > > > > often not focussing on J at the time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyways, this smells like the Qt infrastructure having a timing > > > issue > > > > > > > where it can lose refresh events. But, as a workaround, I would > > > like > > > > > > > to propose that if there's more than 24 hours between paint > events > > > (or > > > > > > > maybe something more aggressive, like an hour?) that J try to > do a > > > > > > > complete paint when that happens (assuming that's possible... I > > > don't > > > > > > > know enough about Qt internals and I *am* guessing, here.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Raul > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ---------- > > > > > > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/ > > > forums.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ---------- > > > > > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/ > > > forums.htm > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > For information about J forums see > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > > > > -- > > > regards, > > > ==================================================== > > > GPG key 1024D/4434BAB3 2008-08-24 > > > gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --armor --export 4434BAB3 > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > -- > regards, > ==================================================== > GPG key 1024D/4434BAB3 2008-08-24 > gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --armor --export 4434BAB3 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
