> And, most of us lapse into JTRAN occasionally. (maybe not Roger)

https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Essays/Knight%27s_Tour  Well, the code is
not scalar JTRAN but is loopy.

On Sat, Aug 28, 2021 at 9:02 PM Henry Rich <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thanks for the reference.  By my analysis, the beta-o parser would not
> be any faster than it is if it had to verify the types of its arguments.
>
> Your last point is absolutely right, and yet I want to ignore it.
> Experienced J programmers have learned ways to avoid sentences that do
> little work.  Programmers new to J write what I call JTRAN: FORTRAN code
> translated to J, with lots of scalar arithmetic.  With a little
> experience they will write better J, but I don't want to lose them
> before they get the experience.  I am trying to make the parser execute
> JTRAN efficiently.
>
> And, most of us lapse into JTRAN occasionally. (maybe not Roger)
>
> Henry Rich
>
>
> On 8/28/2021 11:37 PM, Elijah Stone wrote:
> > On Sat, 28 Aug 2021, Henry Rich wrote:
> >
> >> Large improvement would require heroic intervention: parsing &
> >> caching sentences on the fly & watching assignments to make sure the
> >> cached parse is valid.  I would rather avoid that.
> >
> > The technique has been implemented, to great effect -
> >
> http://www.softwarepreservation.org/projects/apl/Papers/DYNAMICINCREMENTAL
> >
> > That implementation placed the invalidation in the parsed (and
> > compiled) sentence itself, rather than invalidating existing sentences
> > on assignment, which simplified matters; before a sentence is
> > executed, the inferred nameclasses of its referents are verified.
> > This is much simpler and easier to get right, and retains similar
> > performance (especially with modern branch predictors).
> >
> > That being said, if the parser is a bottleneck for some code, then it
> > is likely doing something wrong and should perhaps not be encouraged :)
> >
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