-------------------- list
link/source ranked by
A B C D
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link1 34 2 5 1
link2 44 56 3 67
.....
linkn 89 5
linkn+1 3 7
.........
---------------------- operations by find in webs
show the list
sort by A
sort by B
sort by C
sort by D
look for something in m first links from the nth link on the list
show the nth link from the list
etc
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The links in the list could come partly from the web
you could add your own entries to the list
The ranks A,B,C and D could come partly from the web
A for beginners
B for experts
C your own ranking
etc
2009/11/17 Dan Bron <[email protected]>:
> Björn wrote:
>> Possibly build up a list of links/pages/wiki the Find on the Web could
>> use to find what is being sought.
>
> That wouldn't work the way you envision it. If someone wants to search the
> live web, then he should use Google or another search engine, because that
> is the purpose of search engines (and they take a lot of thought and work
> to build).
>
>> The list culd have a column with notes from users ranking the quality
>> of the info on the pages referred to.
>
> This is PageRank, and there's already a decent implementation out there :)
>
> Speaking more seriously, having J users rank pages won't help a searcher
> much, because e.g. I (Joe Schmoe) might identify a page as "a great J
> page, full of useful information", but it might not be on the topic or
> include the kind of information you (John Doe) are seeking.
>
> Or, let's say that Tom Allen's Schwarzchild pages don't get a high rank
> [1], because there are few people out there who know what a Schwarzschild
> is, and consequently few read or rank those pages. So those pages would
> be at the end of your proposed list. But what if now someone comes along
> who is searching for Schwarzschild implementation in J? For him, these
> pages should be at the very top of the list.
>
> Furthermore, since the J web world is so small, downloading the whole thing
> and doing full text search would be pretty effective [2], and you wouldn't
> even need the ranking table. Of course, this won't scale as the J web
> world grows, but as I said that's the purpose and value of dedicated
> search engines.
>
> But you do raise a good point: we need a centralized page on the J Wiki
> which includes links to all know J web resources, current or historical,
> precisely so that search engines can find them and index them for our
> benefit. I'm willing to maintain this page if the members of this Forum
> will help me with the legwork and send me as many non-Jsoftware J-related
> web links as they know about.
>
> If we do this right, then we could include an interface to Google (et al)
> in the J7 dev environment, and you'd have your embedded web search, but
> someone else (Google) would do all the hard work.
>
> -Dan
>
> [1] I hope Tom doesn't take offense; I just needed an example, and the
> Scharzchild pages were the first thing that stuck out at me on the
> RecentChanges wiki page.
>
> [2] Except for the whole synonym-searching/"chinese menu" problem.
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