It is of course possible and interesting to look at the page source in the browser. It might be a good idea to have a button or something to view the page source. Interaction with browser facilities open up a range of new possibilities.
2009/11/30 Oleg Kobchenko <[email protected]>: > Some raw impressions of interaction so far. > > - navigating to jijs always implicitly creates a new script, > whether you want it or not--this is unexpected; it is better > to have a separate explicit action "New Script"; it should not > create a new file unless explicitly Saved by user. > > - executing "jpage'jopn'" opens a jopn page but shows jijx in Address Bar > > - jopn should be called (Script) Browser or Explorer, because it is > not just Open, and Open is confusing. > > - jopn and jijs (and desirably jijx) should have the same links between > them running at the top for consistency, like the links row in Help. > (Or bottom to be near the input line for jijx) > > [Session] [Browser] [Editor] > > They should be links and not buttons, so that user can "navigate" to > them in a separate window or tab by choice or directly replacing the > same window. The use of bookmarks for this kind of use is an unusual. > > Whereas Actions like Delete, Undo Delete, New File, etc. should be > buttons, since they leave you at the same page and does not intend > navigation or opening a separate window. > > - in jopn, the [select] concept may be confusing; alternative > is a more explicit set of controls for folders and files: > > Folder: d:\path\temp\ [ v] > [delete] [undo] - [..........] [rename] [new] > > File: [10.ijs v] [open] > [delete] [undo] - [..........] [rename] [new] > > (folder drop-down has values: "", "..", "subfolder1", etc > and immediately does cd and resets selection to ""; the parameter > is the whole path) > > (file selection--together with folder--makes a parameter to other commands; > empty file with new creates a new numbered script) > > - jijs should have Save As; leaving should have Discard option > > - doing Run from jijs goes to jijx, but returning is very long > (jpage'jopn', pick a file, "select", open) > possibly a link to a recent (or all) open scripts near the input > line on jijx could help. > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- >> From: Eric Iverson <[email protected]> >> >> jhs use patterns: >> >> Casual: convenient to have eveything happen in one window: open bookmark >> jijx, page to opn, open script, edit, run, page to ijx, page to pdf, etc. >> >> Iphone type device: limited real-estate, limited keyboard, tabs perhaps >> more awkward than justified: similar to casual use >> >> Power: try to come close to traditional IDE development system >> >> Here are a few Power ideas (expressed in windows terms, but applicable to >> all): >> >> Create icon to launch server: >> copy jconsole icon and add to command line: -js "jhs 1500" >> run minimized >> >> Create icon to open jijx page in new browser: >> copy IE or FF icon and add to comand line: http://127.0.0.1:1500/jijx >> rename to: jijx >> details vary depending on browser tab options >> >> Create icon to open jopn in new browser: >> copy IE or FF icon and add to comand line: http://127.0.0.1:1500/jopn >> rename to: jopn >> details will vary depending on browser tab options >> >> The jijx browser lets you always see jijx. The jopn browser can be used with >> tabs for scripts. A jopn bookmark can be used to open jopn in a new tab. >> >> I think with adjustments in work habits and with improvements in the pages >> (especially opn) that this can be an effective IDE. Having a jhs >> intergrated Program Manager would be great. > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > -- Björn Helgason, Verkfræðingur Fornustekkum II 781 Hornafirði Po Box 127,801 Selfoss , t-póst: [email protected] gsm: +3546985532 sími: +3544781286 http://groups.google.com/group/J-Programming Tæknikunnátta höndlar hið flókna, sköpunargáfa er meistari einfaldleikans góður kennari getur stigið á tær án þess að glansinn fari af skónum /|_ .-----------------------------------. ,' .\ / | Með léttri lund verður | ,--' _,' | Dagurinn í dag | / / | Enn betri en gærdagurinn | ( -. | `-----------------------------------' | ) | (\_ _/) (`-. '--.) (='.'=) ♖♘♗♕♔♙ `. )----' (")_(") ☃☠ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
