BTW
Ooops ....
In my previous reply I left out:
In the jconsole first: load 'gtk'
load 'gtkide'
Bill Szuch
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1. Re: Invoking the JGTK editor from the terminal. (John Baker)
2. Re: Invoking the JGTK editor from the terminal. (David Mitchell)
3. Re: Invoking the JGTK editor from the terminal. (John Baker)
4. Re: J7 hosting (Robert Cyr)
5. Re: Invoking the JGTK editor from the terminal. (bob therriault)
6. Missing gtk-demo.exe (William Szuch)
7. Re: Missing gtk-demo.exe (bill lam)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 10:47:45 -0600
From: John Baker <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Jbeta] Invoking the JGTK editor from the terminal.
To: Beta forum <[email protected]>
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open works like a charm in gtk - thanks everyone. Eventually somebody will
figure out how to open browser edit tabs in JHS.
jdb
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 9:34 PM, chris burke <[email protected]> wrote:
> The "open" verb already does this, but could be extended to include
> the optional line number.
>
> On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 9:08 AM, bill lam <[email protected]> wrote:
> > something like this.
> >
> > ed=: 3 : 0
> > l=. locEdit_jgtkide_
> > edit_opentab_show__l y
> > 1
> > )
> >
> > ed 'c:/the/script/to/edit.ijs'
> >
> > you can also specify an optional line number.
> >
> > ed 'c:/the/script/to/edit.ijs';10;0
> >
> > ???, 28 ??? 2011, John Baker ?????(?):
> >> I am in the process of updating JOD for j701. One of most useful JOD
> verbs
> >> is "ed" which fetches a
> >> a word, (or many words), from JOD databases, formats them as a script,
> and
> >> then opens that script for editing in what was a wd (.ijs) window.
> >>
> >> How do you open a script for editing in JGTK from the terminal session?
> I
> >> see the command on the
> >> JGTK menu so it must be buried in there somewhere. I would like
> something
> >> like:
> >>
> >> editverb 'c:/the/script/to/edit.ijs'
> >>
> >> or
> >>
> >> editverb 'some big long character list that just happens to be a j
> script'
> >>
> >> Extra points for doing exactly the same thing in the JHS environment -
> >> opening a new browser tab with an
> >> arbitrary script for editing.
> >>
> >>
> >> jdb
> >>
> >> --
> >> John D. Baker
> >> [email protected]
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> >
> > --
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 12:17:14 -0500
From: David Mitchell <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Jbeta] Invoking the JGTK editor from the terminal.
To: Beta forum <[email protected]>
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I must admit that I have softened my absolute aversion to script-initiated
creation of web browser windows and, later, tabs, over the years.
What initially bothered me, as I recall, was the offensive use of unexpected
'popup' browser windows and inappropriate automatic windows, tabs or
redirects.
My current personal stance is that I don't mind "expected" new windows or
tabs
that are appropriate to the context of the site and the web page
functionality
and that are documented or implied by visual cues.
Many of the commercial web sites that I use make some use of either popup
windows or new tabs. In general, I find that the context where a popup or a
new
tab is created to be reasonably clear and that its use enhances the
usability of
the site.
ymmv
On 1/28/2011 15:42, Eric Iverson wrote:
> I haven't quite come to grips with jhs opening a new tab under program
> control. This has been discussed in earlier beta messages.
>
> Currently the way in jhs is to run verb open (documented in jhelp) that
puts
> a link in the jijx window which you can then use as you see fit.
>
> open'~temp/edit.ijs'
>
> On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 12:08 PM, John Baker<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I am in the process of updating JOD for j701. One of most useful JOD
verbs
>> is "ed" which fetches a
>> a word, (or many words), from JOD databases, formats them as a script,
and
>> then opens that script for editing in what was a wd (.ijs) window.
>>
>> How do you open a script for editing in JGTK from the terminal session?
I
>> see the command on the
>> JGTK menu so it must be buried in there somewhere. I would like
something
>> like:
>>
>> editverb 'c:/the/script/to/edit.ijs'
>>
>> or
>>
>> editverb 'some big long character list that just happens to be a j
script'
>>
>> Extra points for doing exactly the same thing in the JHS environment -
>> opening a new browser tab with an
>> arbitrary script for editing.
>>
>>
>> jdb
>>
>> --
>> John D. Baker
>> [email protected]
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
>>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
>
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 12:14:19 -0600
From: John Baker <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Jbeta] Invoking the JGTK editor from the terminal.
To: Beta forum <[email protected]>
Message-ID:
<[email protected]>
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In my case I am asking for a new TAB by explicitly calling for one in the
ijx page. But I agree that popping
up stuff that wasn't asked for is annoying.
On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 11:17 AM, David Mitchell
<[email protected]>wrote:
> I must admit that I have softened my absolute aversion to script-initiated
> creation of web browser windows and, later, tabs, over the years.
>
> What initially bothered me, as I recall, was the offensive use of
> unexpected
> 'popup' browser windows and inappropriate automatic windows, tabs or
> redirects.
>
> My current personal stance is that I don't mind "expected" new windows or
> tabs
> that are appropriate to the context of the site and the web page
> functionality
> and that are documented or implied by visual cues.
>
> Many of the commercial web sites that I use make some use of either popup
> windows or new tabs. In general, I find that the context where a popup or
> a new
> tab is created to be reasonably clear and that its use enhances the
> usability of
> the site.
>
> ymmv
>
> On 1/28/2011 15:42, Eric Iverson wrote:
> > I haven't quite come to grips with jhs opening a new tab under program
> > control. This has been discussed in earlier beta messages.
> >
> > Currently the way in jhs is to run verb open (documented in jhelp) that
> puts
> > a link in the jijx window which you can then use as you see fit.
> >
> > open'~temp/edit.ijs'
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 12:08 PM, John Baker<[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> >> I am in the process of updating JOD for j701. One of most useful JOD
> verbs
> >> is "ed" which fetches a
> >> a word, (or many words), from JOD databases, formats them as a script,
> and
> >> then opens that script for editing in what was a wd (.ijs) window.
> >>
> >> How do you open a script for editing in JGTK from the terminal session?
> I
> >> see the command on the
> >> JGTK menu so it must be buried in there somewhere. I would like
> something
> >> like:
> >>
> >> editverb 'c:/the/script/to/edit.ijs'
> >>
> >> or
> >>
> >> editverb 'some big long character list that just happens to be a j
> script'
> >>
> >> Extra points for doing exactly the same thing in the JHS environment -
> >> opening a new browser tab with an
> >> arbitrary script for editing.
> >>
> >>
> >> jdb
> >>
> >> --
> >> John D. Baker
> >> [email protected]
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
> >>
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
> >
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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>
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John D. Baker
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 13:42:21 -0500
From: Robert Cyr <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Jbeta] J7 hosting
To: Beta forum <[email protected]>
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As I was planning my (first) webapp, I originaly expected to depend heavily
on server-side calculations as a fair amount of calculations is required.
JUM service apeared to be for personal experimental use, while I was hoping
that my offering would be used by a union-related group for a year of two to
promote a change in a major pension plan here in Quebec.
However, it seems that there is real calcuating power available with
javascript and that server-side calculations are not that useful. I could
easily retreive a fair amount of data from Google Data Tables and use them
at will for my calcualtions.
J parsing to javascript, as in CoffeeScript
<http://jashkenas.github.com/coffee-script/>would
probably have ben nice.
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 4:52 PM, Eric Iverson
<[email protected]>wrote:
> Jsoftware likely won't do anything in this area. Of course the J community
> is welcome to do what it wishes.
>
> Are you familiar with the Jsoftware JUM service we currently run?
>
> On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 4:07 PM, Robert Cyr <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Any chance J7 will be usable on free web hosting sites?
> >
> I> I have used Mezoka, it is fine for MySQL, Jquery, javascript PHP which
> are
> > all ok, but J would be better.
> >
> > Robert Cyr
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 16:14:28 -0800
From: bob therriault <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Jbeta] Invoking the JGTK editor from the terminal.
To: Beta forum <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Hi John,
A possible near miss for JHS
NB. In Unix based systems this works. x specifies the opening application
and y the document
NB. eg. 'TextWrangler' CallEdit '/Users/jay/test1.html' makes the
TextWrangler application open the test1.html document
CallEdit=: 4 : 0
2!:1 [ 'open -a ',x,' ',y
)
I haven't found a way to create a tab, although this may be child's play to
someone who actually knows what they are doing :)
cheers, bob
On 2011-01-30, at 8:47 AM, John Baker wrote:
> open works like a charm in gtk - thanks everyone. Eventually somebody
will
> figure out how to open browser edit tabs in JHS.
>
> jdb
>
> On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 9:34 PM, chris burke <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> The "open" verb already does this, but could be extended to include
>> the optional line number.
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 9:08 AM, bill lam <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> something like this.
>>>
>>> ed=: 3 : 0
>>> l=. locEdit_jgtkide_
>>> edit_opentab_show__l y
>>> 1
>>> )
>>>
>>> ed 'c:/the/script/to/edit.ijs'
>>>
>>> you can also specify an optional line number.
>>>
>>> ed 'c:/the/script/to/edit.ijs';10;0
>>>
>>> ???, 28 ??? 2011, John Baker ?????(?):
>>>> I am in the process of updating JOD for j701. One of most useful JOD
>> verbs
>>>> is "ed" which fetches a
>>>> a word, (or many words), from JOD databases, formats them as a script,
>> and
>>>> then opens that script for editing in what was a wd (.ijs) window.
>>>>
>>>> How do you open a script for editing in JGTK from the terminal session?
>> I
>>>> see the command on the
>>>> JGTK menu so it must be buried in there somewhere. I would like
>> something
>>>> like:
>>>>
>>>> editverb 'c:/the/script/to/edit.ijs'
>>>>
>>>> or
>>>>
>>>> editverb 'some big long character list that just happens to be a j
>> script'
>>>>
>>>> Extra points for doing exactly the same thing in the JHS environment -
>>>> opening a new browser tab with an
>>>> arbitrary script for editing.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> jdb
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> John D. Baker
>>>> [email protected]
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
>>>
>>> --
>>> regards,
>>> ====================================================
>>> GPG key 1024D/4434BAB3 2008-08-24
>>> gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 4434BAB3
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
>>
>
>
>
> --
> John D. Baker
> [email protected]
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 12:18:15 +1100
From: "William Szuch" <[email protected]>
Subject: [Jbeta] Missing gtk-demo.exe
To: <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <331C340561FF442489194042D686BBB0@WS>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Using the XP Win64 environment:
The most recent download of the gtk binaries has "gtk-domo.exe" missing.
It appears in the Win32 download.
Is it to be included or excluded from future downloads for gtk binaries ?.
Regards
Bill Szuch
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 09:45:51 +0800
From: bill lam <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Jbeta] Missing gtk-demo.exe
To: [email protected]
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Some users concern the size of download so the package has been trimmed down
a bit. The same will be done to win32. The old full package is still
available in http://www.jsoftware.com/download/gtkwin64-full.zip or
gtkwin64-old.zip, the exact url I need to check.
Incidentally those optional files are neither available in mac gtk binary in
the download.
BTW, was the crash in you winxp64 fixed?
???, 31 ??? 2011, William Szuch ?????(?):
> Using the XP Win64 environment:
>
>
>
> The most recent download of the gtk binaries has "gtk-domo.exe" missing.
>
> It appears in the Win32 download.
>
>
>
> Is it to be included or excluded from future downloads for gtk binaries ?.
>
>
>
> Regards
> Bill Szuch
> -----------------------------------------
>
>
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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