Well, you've all made a convert out of me.
 
The BGG site is run SOOOOO poorly, I mean, 8 HOURS down?!?!?!?!?  (And 
counting!!!!!). I could've finished a game of Twilight Imperium by now!!!!! 
C'mon!!!!
 
I contribute LOADS and pay WAY MORE than most, and am MUCH more informed 
than you groupthinking zombie pleebs...so I have a much more legit right to 
complain. Defending these money grabbing freeloaders, what a joke. 
 
It's my GOD GIVEN right to vent, and in doing so, the site wll be improved. 
 
If it weren't for our constructive, useful criticisms, the BGG Admin would 
never fix ANYTHING. SO DON'T TREAD ON ME AND MINE, WE'RE SAVING THIS 
TRAINWRECK OF A SO-CALLED '*WEBSITE*'.  pffffft!
 
And I KNOW all you nasty anti venting *whiners* actually BELIEVE the lies 
about a brand new website nearing completion...
 
Well, you are WELCOME (well, if the lies are true, but they aren't). It's 
ONLY due to our vigilant, instant and constant but VERY earned and 
reasonable *venting* (NOT WHINING!!!) that ANYTHING gets improved. The 
creators of BGG have NO interest in improving *our* site!!!!
 
Also, I have to say this; if it weren't for this space to vent (to improve 
our site to get back to paying more than the rest of you and contributing 
VITAL...stufff) ...well, who knows what rage induced killing spree any 
number of us could resort to. Yes, it had to be said. Let's face reality 
folks!!!!  This is a completely likely scenario!!!!
 
So stop being so nasty and let us vent (to save our site/contribute/pay 
more $$$/not kill people). You simply have no right to* waste time 
whining*about our 
*very important venting*, because we are more informed, and let's face it, 
much better looking.  And hey, some of us paid 15 whole 
dollars!!!!  Three+ days down? We want our 15 cents back!!!
 
So for the love of Jebuz, *just let us do our jobs*.  We will save you from 
yourselves, and watch the (incompetent) watchers.
 
Trust us, we're the* smarter* ones.
 
 
 
 

On Monday, January 14, 2013 2:12:54 AM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:

> What I find most amusing is that…
>
> - There is more outright nastiness on the part of those blindly and 
> unconditionally defending BGG than those raising entirely valid concerns 
> and complaints. 
>
> - This is still happening 8 hours into a site outage. It's been 3 years 
> since I've seen a site this well supported and funded go down for this 
> long. Is it the end of the world? Of course it's not, but it sure as heck 
> points to serious problems at the admin level. 
>
> Most encouraging thing I've seen here (on the Google Group most definitely 
> not this thread) is that the owner is finally seriously looking at 
> solutions not built from his own code. It's an enormous feat that one guys 
> work has taken this site so far, but it's also quite clear that this is no 
> longer sustainable or what is best for the community as a whole. 
>
> I think it's a shame that so many are unwilling to acknowledge that there 
> even IS a problem, or see commentary on it as a simple statement of fact 
> rather than an "attack". This kind of blind groupthink positivity actually 
> hurts more than it helps, because if folks didn't always get shouted down 
> for suggesting that there's a real issue, perhaps these alternatives would 
> have been explored by the owner far earlier.
>
> On Monday, January 14, 2013 12:59:46 AM UTC-5, raygun gothic wrote:
>>
>>   I'm shocked that there are people here that can't seem to allow a 
>> member to vent a little frustration.   Do they really need to be 
>> called whiners or told to go somewhere else or the like?  Can't you just 
>> let them get it off their chests.  I think anyone who is a member of this 
>> site has the right to say they are discouraged about something.  
>> Criticism doesn't hurt anything.  Cut a little slack jeez.  Most of 
>> nastiness isn't even from the people who are expressing their frustration, 
>> it's the other side. 
>>  
>> Of course defenders have their right to speak also but do it nicely 
>> please.  One can defend BGG and all it does without attacking or being rude 
>> to anyone.
>>  
>>    One of the best things of BGG are it's users and some of the 
>> people here are not making a good example.  Just my 2 cents.  OK carry 
>> on... I must leave you and go deal with Wu-Feng.  Happy gaming!
>>  
>>
>> On Sunday, January 13, 2013 4:28:41 PM UTC-6, Wytefang wrote:
>>
>>> I love the site, honestly, like we all do, but I don't think I've ever 
>>> seen a site go down as much as this one.  In fairness, there's a lot going 
>>> on here with the three sites but wow.  :(
>>>
>>> Might be time for some new database software or servers or something - 
>>> clearly whatever is being used isn't cutting the mustard, so to speak.
>>>
>>> Yikes!  
>>>
>>>
>>>

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