On Wednesday, December 12, 2007, at 11:58AM, "Christiaan Hofman" <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>On 12 Dec 2007, at 8:39 PM, Adam R. Maxwell wrote:
>
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 12, 2007, at 11:22AM, "Christiaan Hofman"  
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 12 Dec 2007, at 8:16 PM, Adam R. Maxwell wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, December 12, 2007, at 09:44AM, "Christiaan Hofman"
>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12 Dec 2007, at 6:03 PM, Adam R. Maxwell wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Dec 12, 2007, at 5:18 AM, Christiaan Hofman wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now that you've removed makeType:, how should we handle empty
>>>>>>> fields
>>>>>>> in the editor? Right now things are inconsistent, as in some  
>>>>>>> places
>>>>>>> empty strings are equivalent to nil, and in other places they're
>>>>>>> not.
>>>>>>> For example, adding, removing, and changing a field name still
>>>>>>> assume
>>>>>>> that non-displayed fields are empty and displayed fields are not
>>>>>>> empty, which now is wrong.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Didn't know that; I've never changed a field name or looked at  
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> code, so I'm not sure what the implications are.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The delete should just delete the selected row, I think (and be
>>>>>> disabled for un-deletable rows).  I'd use that action regularly
>>>>>> except
>>>>>> that it's so annoying to go through the sheet/popup for each
>>>>>> one...so
>>>>>> I end up leaving RIS imports with a bunch of junk fields.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It's not a question of what field to delete, but what "deleting a
>>>>> field" means? A field displayed in the editor may now already be  
>>>>> nil,
>>>>> so deleting it would do nothing.
>>>>
>>>> If I select the Year field for a journal, the "Delete Field" option
>>>> should be disabled.  Likewise, it should be disabled for required/
>>>> optional/user-defined default fields.
>>>>
>>>>> The same for add: a field not
>>>>> displayed in the editor may actually be non-nil. In those cases
>>>>> addField: and removeField: do not work properly, because they  
>>>>> assume
>>>>> that the field was nil or non-nil respectively.
>>>>
>>>> Under what circumstances do you have a non-nil field that isn't
>>>> displayed in the editor?
>>>>
>>>
>>> that's my question: should we have those or not? My point is that now
>>> that we don't enforce a relation between (non)-nil fields and
>>> standard fields through makeType, a value of @"" should be equivalent
>>> to a value of nil. So as custom nil fields are not displayed, also
>>> custom empty fields should not be displayed. Otherwise empty strings
>>> can be added from switching types, as we don't remove those anymore.
>>
>> I think we have a terminology issue here; what is the scenario for  
>> this?  Are you talking about one-off custom fields that are added  
>> with the + button, then the user switches types without setting  
>> that field to a meaningful value?  Those seem to be removed when  
>> switching types if the field is empty, and that's expected behavior  
>> as far as I'm concerned.
>
>Any case that adds empty strings as a field value, for a field that  
>at some point is not a standard field. This could be when the type  
>changes. They don't need to be custom fields at the time they're  
>created. E.g. a standard type for one field could be an empty string  
>and is displayed. When you switch type, it may not be a standard  
>field anymore. So should it be displayed? Empty non-standard fields  
>are now not removed anymore, as that was happening in makeType.

If I hit cmd-n for a new @article, then click the + button to add a custom 
field called "Test" it's filled in with some default values.  If I switch the 
type to @book, the Test field is preserved.  All non-book empty fields are 
gone.  If I delete the content of the Test field and commit the edit, it's 
still present.  If I switch back to @article, the Test field is gone.  So what 
case adds empty strings to a field value?


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