On Oct 7, 2007, at 19:36, P Kishor wrote:

> On 10/7/07, Derick Fay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I'm not one of the developers but you both know that Bibdesk is a
>> software for generating Bibtex-files which are used in LaTeX-
>> documents.
>> I wonder how many users would agree with this characterization -- I  
>> don't
>> use BibTex at all - do most other BibDesk users?
>>
>> I see BibDesk as a reference manager and search tool which happens  
>> to offer
>> BibTex among its output formats, but which should have broad appeal  
>> beyond
>> BibTex users..
>
> I am with you Derick. I have little use for BibTex. Funnily, I
> installed MacTex a few weeks ago for the first time... after 750 Mb of
> all manner of stuff, I was able to open Tex files and view them as
> PDF. I was not very thrilled.

There are smaller distributions available, I think...but TeX still  
requires a lot of arcane files.

> I can imagine that Tex held some appeal to some people at some point
> in time, but there is little use I see in it for myself. For me,
> TextEdit is more easy and flexible.

Depends.  On the negative side, I find LaTeX code annoying to read and  
write, and things like encodings and font changes are insane (unless  
you use XeTeX).  I use BibTeX, but I think its style language sucks.

However, LaTeX's benefits outweigh the problems, for me.  It's  
portable (plain text), scalable (hundreds of pages is trivial),  
handles floats and equations, and has actually functional captioning,  
numbering, and cross-referencing.  For example, I have never checked a  
citation list or figure numbering in my LaTeX documents, in spite of  
rearranging figures and sections or changing bibliography styles.  In  
grad school we could always tell when someone had a paper due, just by  
the amount of cursing (at Word) in the computer lab.

> Scrivener can use the text input manager's \cite{blah <hit esc to
> auto-complete> blah} technique, but Pages can't.

You should be able to use the Services in Pages.  Note that you can  
insert a formatted version or a cite key, based on search criteria  
(documented in the help book).

> Then, when everything
> is done, I am clueless as to how to convert my \cite{blah blah} into
> "Blah blah. 2007. blah blah blah." I have been looking at Tom
> Counsell's Ruby script, and that might save me.

That script is probably your best bet at the moment for Pages.  I  
don't think Pages supports any reference manager directly, so all  
solutions will suck to some extent.

-- 
adam

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