>On 11/17/07 3:58 AM, "Christiaan Hofman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On 17 Nov 2007, at 10:08 AM, Ingrid Giffin wrote:
>>> On 11/16/07 4:10 AM, "François Briatte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>>> A lot of stuff can be imported through citeulike, including JSTOR, or any
>>> journals website (x). I have described the (x) --> (citeulike)  --> BibDesk
>>> routine here: http://phnk.com/blog/tech/citeulike-and- bibdesk/ (slightly
>>> outdated, search archives in list for discussion).

>> Within my browser, I have tried the citeulike routine described on  your web
>> page, but if I click the citulike bookmarklet while I am on the JSTOR article
>> page, I get incomplete citations; for instance, the author  name and title,
>> but no date or other information. If I click all the way  through on JSTOR to
>> the BibTex citation page (where I get the complete  citation), by that time
>> there's no point in going through citeulike--it's just as  easy to drag to
>> BibDesk.
>> 
> 
> It can well be that the JSTOR data does not contain all the
> information or that we do not include all the available information
> from JSTOR. For bibTeX we do include all the information, as it is
> our native format.
> 
> But which citeulike routine are you referring to, and which web site
> are you searching?
> 
> Christiaan

It's not a JSTOR problem per se, it's trying to figure out how François is
using Citeulike to save steps.

Here are my steps:
In the browser (not within BD),
1. Perform a search on JSTOR.
2. Click to one article's page. (This is presumably the problem, because
this page does not contain full citation information.)
3. Click Citulike bookmarklet.
4. Do this with a bunch of articles.
5. Go to "My Library" on Citulike web site.
6. Export BibText. 
7. Open BibText file.
8. Drag contents to BD.

In most cases, the citations I end up with do not contain full citation
information--although SOME do, which is very confusing. I don't know where
the full information is coming from in these cases.

If I use the JSTOR "save citation" function and then use JSTOR's BibTex
export, the full citation information is all there. Again, this is just
trying to figure out François' workflow, to avoid the number of clicks on
JSTOR to get the citations.

More below:

>>> This routine can be used within BD if you create a page with a frame,
>>> where the top frame has the citeulike bookmarklet and the lower frame
>>> has JSTOR or any other citeulike-supported website.
>> 
>> Could you explain exactly what you mean by creating a "page with a  frame"?
>> --and how you get the two to have different contents?
> 
> A web page can consist of several sub-pages called frames, which load
> a separate URL. You can reload a subpage separately, and we have to
> make sure we scan reloaded subframes while the main page remains the
> same.

I know about web frames, but how then do you mean, "used within BD"? You are
creating a personal web page with frames? And then loading that in the BD
Web search window?

And how does the top frame have the Citulike bookmarklet? My bookmarklet is
installed in the browser itself as a clickable bookmark-toolbar link, and
does not live on a web page.
Thanks,
Ingrid



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