On 12 Mar 2008, at 4:00 PM, James Harrison wrote: > On Mar 12, 2008, at 10:10 AM, Christiaan Hofman wrote: > >> In BibDesk 1.3.14, when file renaming/autofiling is being used, it >> sometimes may be desirable to link files to references without >> renaming them, particularly when multiple files are being linked to a >> reference. There appear to be several problems with this workflow: >> >> 1. Linking some files without moving or renaming them can be >> accomplished by choosing "Don't move" from the dialog that appears >> when a file is dragged to a reference detail view to create the link. >> For me, this dialog appears only for non-PDF files (PDF files are >> renamed/moved immediately). It's possible that I clicked the checkbox >> option "don't show this dialog again" for PDF files in the distant >> past and it keeps track of the file type for which it's bypassed. In >> any case, it's not clear how make it appear or get it back for PDFs >> that I don't wish to rename. >> >> This dialog can only appear for folders, never for files (and if it >> does the system is lying to us). It should not be standard, >> otherwise it would basically make the auto-file feature useless. > > Sorry, my fault. The dialog also shows for folders that are > masquerading as files, such as Pages files and at least one Word doc > file that I tried. So it only appears to show for files in some cases. >
I'll disable the warning for packages. The main reason for this warning was someone who auto-filed his Desktop. >> 3. In cases where there are multiple linked files to a reference, it >> might be useful to offer an option to autofile a file to the folder >> path that is defined in the autofile preference without renaming the >> file (except for possible uniqueness characters at the end), at least >> for files after the initial linked file. >> >> We're not going to make it even more complex by offering different >> auto-file formats for the different files (that's basically what >> you're saying). Moreover 'the first linked file' is pretty >> arbitrary. So, no. > > The suggestion was to allow auto-renaming to be turned off for desired > files (for example, using a modifier-key drag), not to define multiple > formats. The folder path I mentioned was the folder path for the > existing autofile option, not a second one. I agree, multiple formats > would be problematic. > A modifier would perhaps be possible. Not sure which, and also don't think it would be possible to show it. >> You should either auto-file manually, or move the files you don't >> want to be filed in the Finder after it has been auto-filed. > > > My key issue is auto-renaming, so that multiple file links for > references can be distinguished. I understand that there is a certain > amount of linkage between auto-renaming and auto-filing, depending on > how they're set up, that may make separating the two problematic. So > I'm OK with turning them off and on together if that needs to be done. > My interest here is whether it might be reasonable to allow that on a > link-by-link basis in addition to the global preference. So why don't you use a format "%l%d0%e"? > > > I understand that a good bit of work has gone into setting up BibDesk > to manage multiple file links per reference and the result is really > nice, particularly in the current nightlies. I'm sorry if I'm not > understanding the desired behavior of the feature for folks who > autofile...it appears that when they have more than one file link per > reference, they'll end up with a bunch of little previews that all > have the same names. It's this case that seemed to me to be a residual > issue from the multiple link implementation that could perhaps be > addressed by allowing renaming to be bypassed on demand. > One problem is that it is automatic, so you can't just add and then mark it as not needing auto file (as that comes too late). A modifier might be the only way to do anything like this, but it would be very hidden, as there's nothing indicating this. > In my particular case, the logical workaround is just to uncheck the > autofile global preference when I'm working with some libraries and > stick to links that make sense when named for the reference otherwise > (ie, one PDF and one online link). > > Jim Harrison > UVa Or use %l in your format, or rename the file back after auto-filing (you could even put that in a script hook). Christiaan ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Bibdesk-users mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
