Re: [Bibdesk-users] using both bibtex/latex and Pages with BibDesk

[Christiaan Hofman]

On Aug 26, 2009, at 9:35, Miguel Ortiz Lombardia wrote:

Le 25 août 09 à 22:08, Christiaan Hofman a écrit :


On Aug 25, 2009, at 15:00, Miguel Ortiz Lombardia wrote:

Hi all,

This may have been asked before, but I have failed to find an  
answer.
If it was asked, I would appreciate a pointer so I can read about  
it.

So this is the problem: I write some documents using latex/bibtex  
and
some others (essentially with collaborators who don't use latex)  
with
Pages. For Pages, I use CiteinPages.

Now, wherever a publication includes accented/special characters,  
for
example in author's names, then:

1. If the entry is written in proper bibtex format:

@article{Vanacova:2005aa,
        Author = {Van{\'a}cov{\'a}, Step{\'a}nka and Wolf, Jeannette and
Martin, Georges and Blank, Diana and Dettwiler, Sabine and  
Friedlein,
Arno and Langen, Hanno and Keith, Gérard and Keller, Walter},
        Journal = {PLoS Biol},
        Journal-Full = {PLoS biology},
        Month = {Jun},
        Number = {6},
        Pages = {e189},
        Title = {A new yeast poly(A) polymerase complex involved in RNA
quality control},
        Volume = {3},
        Year = {2005}}

then latex/bibtex do what they promise but Pages/CiteinPages show  
the
author's name with the brackets, etc

2. If the entry is left as it was imported from PubMed, that is,  
with
accented characters:

@article{Vanacova:2005aa,
	Author = {Vanácová, Stepánka and Wolf, Jeannette and Martin,  
Georges
and Blank, Diana and Dettwiler, Sabine and Friedlein, Arno and  
Langen,
Hanno and Keith, Gérard and Keller, Walter},
        Journal = {PLoS Biol},
        Journal-Full = {PLoS biology},
        Month = {Jun},
        Number = {6},
        Pages = {e189},
        Title = {A new yeast poly(A) polymerase complex involved in RNA
quality control},
        Volume = {3},
        Year = {2005}}

Pages/CiteinPages show the citation as I would like but when I use
latex/bibtex I lose the accented characters.

Is there a way out of this situation?

Thanks a lot!


Miguel

I think you have two ways to deal with this. The first is to use  
XeLaTeX instead of LaTeX, which accepts accented characters. The  
other is to use accented characters and turn on tex conversion in  
the Files preferences (this will convert accented characters to tex  
escapes for saving and for the tex preview).


Thanks, Christiaan.

I didn't know about XeLaTeX, I will investigate.
I'm not sure to understand the second option. Do you mean that  
BibDesk can process latex files to produce the bibliography  
(citations plus list of references) as a replacement of bibtex? That  
would be great, of course, but I guess you mean not really that, but  
using BibDesk in the same way you would for Pages/Word, etc?

Best,


Miguel

No, that's not what I mean. What I mean is that bibdesk can  
automatically replace accented characters such as á by tex-escapes  
such as {\'a} in the saved file (and convert it back when the file is  
opened). And of course bibtex uses the saved file.

Apart from that, there's the tex-preview feature (Windows > TeX  
Preview), which uses latex and bibtex behind the scenes. When you turn  
on tex-conversion for saving that will also use bibtex with the tex- 
escapes.

Christiaan

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