On Nov 23, 2009, at 22:21, Nick Illich wrote:
>> About group fields, I went to View->Group Field->Add Field and tried to type
>> in "Series", but it gave me a warning that says "Invalid Field: The field
>> "Series" can not be used for groups."
>
>>
>
> Fields containing some kind of title would be useless for field groups. There
> would just be one group for each item, because titles are generally unique,
> and they also do not consist of a list of unique words like Keywords.
> If you want to do some matching on a title-like field according to some
> matching criterium, you should use a smart group, as Adam suggested.
>
> I'm sorry, I'm a little confused. Why would an entry like 'series' be useless
> for a field group? For series, it's similar browsing articles in a journal,
> which listed in the field groups already. Instead, it would be browsing books
> in a series, right? Am I understanding it correctly?
>
> Thanks,
> Nick
>
I'd say that a series is much more like a booktitle. There are generally much
more articles in a journal than there are books in a series. Therefore series
are not good for grouping items, as there will be one or at most just a few per
item.
Christiaan
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 9:50 PM, Christiaan Hofman <cmhof...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Nov 23, 2009, at 11:47, Nick Illich wrote:
>
>> Thanks for all the info Adam and Christiaan! I really appreciate it.
>>
>> About group fields, I went to View->Group Field->Add Field and tried to type
>> in "Series", but it gave me a warning that says "Invalid Field: The field
>> "Series" can not be used for groups."
>
> Fields containing some kind of title would be useless for field groups. There
> would just be one group for each item, because titles are generally unique,
> and they also do not consist of a list of unique words like Keywords.
>
> If you want to do some matching on a title-like field according to some
> matching criterium, you should use a smart group, as Adam suggested.
>
>> The others fields work, such as author (is there a way to link author and
>> editor in case there is no author?), year, etc.
>>
>
> No, that's not supported.
>
>> I'm sorry, I got the wording wrong about the cite key error. It usually does
>> it if I try to add more than one PDF and says: "Duplicate Cite Key: One or
>> more items you added have a cite key which is either already used in this
>> document. You should provide a unique one." Is there an option to turn off
>> the warning?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Nick
>>
>
> No. Things may not work properly when you don't have unique cite keys.
>
> Christiaan
>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 8:28 PM, Christiaan Hofman <cmhof...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> On Nov 23, 2009, at 4:21, Adam R. Maxwell wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > On Nov 22, 2009, at 6:52 PM, Nick Illich wrote:
>> >
>> >> One thing I liked about Mendeley, though, was that when I drag one of my
>> >> PDFs to the program, it gives me a button that allows me to automatically
>> >> try to retrieve information based on Google Scholar if I type in the
>> >> title, etc. Is there a way to do something similar in BibDesk?
>> >
>> > Not at present. If you download or copy e.g., BibTeX or RIS data for that
>> > citation, though, you can drop it or paste it on the editor window of the
>> > reference (at least, I think that still works).
>> >
>> >> I've been able to import information from Google Scholar and other sites
>> >> through BibDesk before, but only if do it before I add a blank entry with
>> >> a PDF. Is there a way to look up the information after an entry is
>> >> created (from adding a PDF there)?
>> >
>> > There's code to do this for PubMed based on the PDF contents, but not
>> > Google Scholar. I vaguely recall an AppleScript from Brian Helenbrook
>> > that did something similar with other indexes, but the links on the wiki
>> > are dead. You could implement something yourself with AppleScript, I
>> > think.
>> >
>> >> Also, in recent versions, it gives me a warning whenever I add more than
>> >> one PDF/blank entries that the cite key is missing. Since I know about it
>> >> and will add it later, is there an option that will allow me to turn the
>> >> warning off?
>> >
>> > That sounds odd. Do you have citekey as part of the autofile naming
>> > scheme?
>> >
>>
>> Which / what kind of warning are you talking about?
>>
>> >> Also, when there is a translator for a book, what field does it go under?
>> >> I didn't see a translator field, so I created one, but I was just
>> >> wondering what others in general used for this kind of situation, if
>> >> there is an option I do not know of.
>> >
>> > You'll have to add your own, since that's not a standard BibTeX field.
>> > BibLaTeX might define a standard field for it.
>> >
>> >> I also really like being able to view all the keywords on the side pane
>> >> and browse by those. I was wondering if there were other "browse by"
>> >> options, in particular I'm interested in browsing by the series title,
>> >> showing all the volumes of a particular series.
>> >
>> > Absolutely. See
>> >
>> > http://bibdesk.sourceforge.net/manual/BibDesk%20Help_33.html
>> >
>> > or search for "group" in the help book.
>> >
>>
>> And you can choose the field to use for the field (keyword) groups using
>> View > Group Field (or the context menu on the header of those groups).
>>
>> >> Finally, if my computer fails for some reason and I have to back up all
>> >> of my data,
>> >
>> > I recommend backing up before the failure :)
>> >
>> >> would the data links between the pdf and bib file remain in place? For
>> >> instance, if I retrieve a copy of my bibliography file from a source and
>> >> also a copy of all the pdfs that it had linked to, will the links break
>> >> or will it automatically know where to find them? Would they have to
>> >> maintain the same path?
>> >
>> > As long as the relative path from the .bib file to the linked files is the
>> > same, it will just work. There are some other details that have been
>> > discussed in the archives, like this thread:
>> >
>> > http://www.mail-archive.com/bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net/msg03651.html
>> >
>> > regards,
>> > Adam
>>
>> More generally: either 1. the relative path, 2. the full path or 3. the file
>> id must remain the same for BibDesk to find the linked file back.
>>
>> Christiaan
>>
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