Christiaan's and my mail crossed each other. I side with Christiaan, having read the thread. And true, there are many arguments to consider, not just a particular user's ones.
One last "advanced" ;-) question to Christiaan: I wish just to better understand the implementation: Is there a systemwide setting that is controlled here? What is it's name, in which plist? Then that setting must be different from the setting you can make using the Finder (Get Info -> Open with -> Change All...). A rather complicated situation. Moreover, using utilities such as MisFox (http://mac.clauss-net.de/misfox/) show still another setting exists on the system for .pdf (AFAIK the so-called internet settings). An even more complicated situation. Thus, can you please clarify a bit and tell me what system preference exactly is controlled via BD? Or can you give me the URL where the BD code is that does this? Thanks. Regards, Andreas P.S.: Please don't get tired too quickly. These discussions are unavoidable in such projects. ;-) ETH Zurich Prof. Dr. Andreas Fischlin Systems Ecology - Institute of Integrative Biology CHN E 21.1 Universitaetstrasse 16 8092 Zurich SWITZERLAND [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> www.sysecol.ethz.ch<http://www.sysecol.ethz.ch> +41 44 633-6090 phone +41 44 633-1136 fax +41 79 221-4657 mobile Make it as simple as possible, but distrust it! ________________________________________________________________________ On 29/Apr/2011, at 14:52 , Christiaan Hofman wrote: On Apr 29, 2011, at 14:25, kbostroem wrote: Sorry if I'm stepping into this discussion that lately, but I'm also one of those people with a burning desire for a default-PDF-viewer preference at a transparent place in BibDesk. In fact, I just didn't find this preference although I was looking for it in the BibDesk preference pane. I then googled it and stumbled into this forum, so I'm happy that the setting exists and works! I don't like it in General, if not just because it's not a primary preference. Personally, I would rather side with Adam and remove it all together than moving it to the General preferences. As it's really an advanced preference that arguable should not be there at all, there's a strong case to make it hidden. Why do you developers often see things so deeply different than ordinary users? Because users have deeply different views among themselves (I can assure you), and we have to take into account all of these views and in particular logic and Apple's Human Interface Guidelines. As an ordinary user, I simply don't care if the PDF-viewer setting is an "advanced preference" or a "primary preference" or whatever, I just want to set it, and I want to find it at a location where I expect it to be, which is definitely not under "Fields". The placement under Fields has been explained. And above I explained why it does not matter whether YOU don't care, the point is that we DO care. But more to the point: What exactly is wrong with putting the setting under "General"? That was explained, you apparently read that, so why you ask? As far as I can see, the setting does not influence my system-wide default PDF-viewer setting, but just and only the BibDesk-wide viewer setting. It simply lets me define what viewer to use within BibDesk, so it is a veritable BibDesk setting and not in any way suspicious or dangerous. How come you and Adam think to the contrary, that it's an "evil" setting which should be hidden from the user or even removed? But it does overrule a standard system setting, and therefore does things that can be unexpected, and arguably should not be done. In hindsight, we should have never added this setting. And there is a good chance that in the future it will be a hidden preference, as for the default browser (more arguing about this will enhance the chances of this happening, as it makes me tired of it). Christiaan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ WhatsUp Gold - Download Free Network Management Software The most intuitive, comprehensive, and cost-effective network management toolset available today. Delivers lowest initial acquisition cost and overall TCO of any competing solution. http://p.sf.net/sfu/whatsupgold-sd _______________________________________________ Bibdesk-users mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ WhatsUp Gold - Download Free Network Management Software The most intuitive, comprehensive, and cost-effective network management toolset available today. Delivers lowest initial acquisition cost and overall TCO of any competing solution. http://p.sf.net/sfu/whatsupgold-sd _______________________________________________ Bibdesk-users mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
