Hi Tamer Özsu,

Look at the data you provided:

file = {:Users/tozsu/Documents/Collected Papers/Proceedings Papers/EDBT/EDBT 
2011/LID11(EDBT)\_a6-zaniolo.pdf},

This is AFAIK not a valid file path, e.g. it starts with a ":". I guess 
Christiaan's word use 'junk' is more too often true than not. Making wild 
guesses, as perhaps other programs such as Papers do, may also not be always 
helpful, because it can be very confusing if it once works and once not for 
reasons very difficult to comprehend. And if you look at other program 
characteristics, e.g. Papers' lousy cite key generation, you find that perhaps 
a small advantage as guessing when pdf metadata are bad is paid with 
deficiencies that are intolerable (at least for me).

This is just meant as some considerations to also take into account before 
criticizing BibDesk too much.

Sincerely yours,
Andreas Fischlin


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On 12/10/2011, at 10:10 , M. Tamer Özsu wrote:

> Thank you. I'll study that. 
> 
> I wonder how programs such as Papers and Mendeley are able to extract that 
> info from PDF files -- or do they not extract them from the PDFs?
> 
> ==Tamer
> 
> On 2011-10-11, at 11:20 PM, Maxwell, Adam R wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Oct 11, 2011, at 14:16, M. Tamer Özsu wrote:
>> 
>>> Some PDF files do have this information included as metadata that some 
>>> programs are able to extract. I thought there might be a mechanism such as 
>>> that, but I understand that there isn't.
>> 
>> There is, but most of that metadata is junk.  Look for 
>> BDSKShouldUsePDFMetadata on this page:
>> 
>> http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/bibdesk/index.php?title=Tips_and_Tricks
>> 
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