On 22.10.2011, at 13:29, Christiaan Hofman wrote: > > On Oct 22, 2011, at 13:06, Simon Spiegel wrote: > >> >> On 22.10.2011, at 11:57, Christiaan Hofman wrote: >> >>> >>> On Oct 22, 2011, at 10:37, Simon Spiegel wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> a similar topic has already been discussed on the OSX TeX Mailing list, >>>> but I'm interested how the BibDesk developers see this issue: I've been >>>> using DropBox already for quite some time. The documents I'm working on >>>> and my private texmf tree are in the Dropbox, and, of course, my main .bib >>>> file. This setup works very well, there's only one slight annoyance. I >>>> work regularly on two computers and whenever I forget to close the .bib >>>> file on one machine and make changes on the other one, I end up with two >>>> different versions of the .bib file. No big deal, but I wonder if iCloud >>>> integration would allow automatic synching between two runnings instance >>>> of BibDesk. I don't know what parts of iCloud are already accessible to >>>> third party developers (there seems to be some documentation on >>>> developer.apple.com) but at least in theory this is what apple already >>>> does with apps like Address Book or iCal (I'm actually quite surprised >>>> that the iOS version of the iWork suite already allow synching to iCloud >>>> while OSX applications haven't been updated yet). >>>> >>>> Any insights? >>>> >>>> Simon >>> >>> I really cannot say much about iCloud. However, I have my doubts that >>> BibDesk can use it, given that it links to other files, and in an important >>> part by relative paths. >> >> If the .bib file could be stored in the iCloud, then why not the autofiled >> files as well? And even if this isn't feasible, IMO losing relative paths is >> a small price for much gained comfort. You could just disable the option for >> relative file paths for Autofile if iCloud was enabled. >> >> BTW I wonder whether the majority uses relative or absolute file paths for >> Autofile. In my setup, the .bib file lies in ~/texmf/bibtex/bib, and I >> wouldn't want have my papers stored there as well. That's why I have BibDesk >> put them in ~/Dropbox/Publications. Of course, I do not know other people's >> setup, but at least in this scenario, moving the .bib file into the iCloud >> wouldn't cause any problems with file paths. >> >> Simon > > > I'm not talking about autofile. It's about the *reference* to these files. > Absolute paths and aliases are only valid on a single volume/device. So they > cannot be shared. For sharing between devices you need a relative path, > because that's the only thing that's the same on different devices/volumes. > And isn't sharing the whole idea of using iCloud? Files in the iCloud aren't > referenced by a path, because they're not local files.
Sorry, I don't get it. I don't see the difference between the Dropbox setup I described. Of course, you cannot share absolute paths between two volumes with different structure, but if you use something like ~/Dropbox/Publications as a path, there's no problem. And I'm probably getting something wrong here, but from what I understand, technically, iCloud files are still local files. From Apple's docs: "All documents must be created on a local disk initially and moved to a user’s iCloud account later. A document targeted for iCloud storage is not moved to iCloud immediately, though. First, it is moved from its current location in the file system to a local system-managed directory where it can be monitored by the iCloud service. After that transfer, the file is transfered to iCloud and to the user’s other devices as soon as possible." (https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#releasenotes/MacOSX/WhatsNewInOSX/Articles/MacOSX10_7.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40010355-SW5). Simon -- Simon Spiegel Steinhaldenstr. 50 8002 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 6039 http://www.simifilm.ch „Was soll aus mir mal werden, wenn ich mal nicht mehr bin?“ Robert Gernhardt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The demand for IT networking professionals continues to grow, and the demand for specialized networking skills is growing even more rapidly. Take a complimentary Learning@Cisco Self-Assessment and learn about Cisco certifications, training, and career opportunities. http://p.sf.net/sfu/cisco-dev2dev _______________________________________________ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
