Hello everybody,
I have one more question with regards to Templates:
For titles, is there a way I can get BibDesk to translate Tex Quotation
Marks `` and '' into the standard typographic ones also for the Rtf
templates? And the same with -- and --- etc.
Thanks!
Jan
On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Jan David Hauck <[email protected]>wrote:
> Thank you so much Christiaan!
>
> Got it to work! (Although the template looks pretty insane now, as
> technically they want to list all authors in the bibliography so I've
> written it out up until ten authors). I'll send it to you shortly if you
> want to post it to the wiki, the AAA template that's there doesn't do it
> the way it should be.
> But I have one more question: For titles, is there a way I can get
> BibDesk to translate Tex Quotation Marks `` and '' into the standard
> typographic ones (for the rtf templates)?
>
> Thanks again!
>
> Jan
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 1:56 AM, Christiaan Hofman <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>>
>> On Apr 27, 2014, at 1:52, Jan David Hauck wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Christiaan!
>>
>> I've tried to do it but there's one thing I didn't figure out.
>>
>> Here is what I used for book (basically from your suggestion on the other
>> thread):
>>
>> <$pubType=book?>
>> <$authors.normalizedName.@firstObject/><$authors.@count
>> =0?><$authors.@count=1?><?$authors.@count=2?> and
>> <$authors.name.@secondObject/><?$authors.@count=3?>,
>> <$authors.name.@secondObject/>, and <$authors.name.@thirdObject
>> /><?$authors.@count?>, <$authors.name.@secondObject/>,
>> <$authors.name.@thirdObject/>, et al.</$authors.@count?>
>>
>> <$fields.Year/> <$fields.Title.stringByDeTeXifyingString/>.
>> <$fields.Address/>: <$fields.Publisher/>.
>>
>> It works as it should for two-author / three-author entries but for
>> entries with one single author it gives me now:
>>
>> Lastname, Firstname, , , et al.
>>
>> What am I doing wrong?
>>
>>
>> There is a "?" missing in the alternate condition tag <?$authors.@count
>> =1?>
>>
>> Also, perhaps one small simplification could be:
>>
>> <$authors.normalizedName.@firstObject/><$authors.@count
>> <1?><?$authors.@count<3?> and <$authors.name.@secondObject
>> /><?$authors.@count<4?>, <$authors.name.@secondObject/>, and
>> <$authors.name.@thirdObject/><?$authors.@count?>,
>> <$authors.name.@secondObject/>, <$authors.name.@thirdObject/>, et
>> al.</$authors.@count?>
>>
>> And: where should I logically place the same stuff for editors?
>>
>>
>> It depends on what you want exactly. If you want the same template for
>> editors, you could simply use "authorsOrEditors" instead of "authors".
>> Otherwise, you can specify a different format using something like
>>
>> <$authors?>
>> template for authors
>> <?$authors?>
>> template for editors
>> </$authors?>
>>
>> Christiaan
>>
>> Thanks so much for your help!
>>
>> Jan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 3:55 PM, Christiaan Hofman <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 26, 2014, at 23:34, Jan David Hauck wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello everybody,
>>>
>>> Two (hopefully) quick questions on templates:
>>>
>>> 1.) Same problem as:
>>> https://sourceforge.net/p/bibdesk/mailman/message/24924524/
>>> trying to get the output for multiple authors:
>>> Lastname, Firstname, Firstname Lastname, and Firstname Lastname. YYYY.
>>> Title
>>>
>>> (FYI, all styles that are following [or inspired by] the Chicago Manual
>>> of Style will have this format, the "logic" behind it is "always write
>>> authors as Firstname Lastname *unless* part of a list where Lastname is
>>> relevant for sort order, i.e., bibliographies").
>>>
>>> Is there a more elegant solution for this than the one suggested:
>>>
>>> <$authors.normalizedName.@.../><$authors.@...=0?>
>>> <$authors.@...=1?>
>>> <?$authors.@...=2?>
>>> and <$authors.name.@.../><?$authors.@...=3?>
>>> , <$authors.name.@.../>, and <$authors.name.@.../><?$authors.@...?>
>>> , <$authors.name.@.../>, <$authors.name.@.../>, et al.</$authors.@...?>
>>>
>>> as it happens that even in the social sciences there are papers with up
>>> to a dozen authors and the above solution is a little cumbersome if you
>>> want to have it universally applicable.
>>>
>>>
>>> For a format as weird as this style, it must be something as cumbersome
>>> as this, because it's not very consistent, to say the least. I am not sure
>>> how many authors should be handled by this style, but it shouldn't be
>>> really more cumbersome, just proper conditionals, whatever they need to be
>>> (this one assumes to use et al after three names.)
>>>
>>>
>>> 2.) How do I get the "if no author display editor" behavior for
>>> templates?
>>>
>>> Any help greatly appreciated!
>>>
>>> Thank you!
>>>
>>> Jan
>>>
>>>
>>> Use some conditionals based on the number of authors, and insert a
>>> template using editors when there are no authors. For instance, in
>>> something like the above you can insert something involving editors in the
>>> <$authors.@count=0?> case.
>>>
>>> Christiaan
>>>
>>
>>
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