But if we manually change _ to \_ in the doi or url field (for exporting in a .bib file used by LaTeX) BibDesk cannot replace \_ by _ when we click on the "@" at right side of doi or url field so the opened url is correct? (keeping the real value of doi and url field with \_ so the TeX preview can also be used).
Seems not to complicated to do for the computer: If the user click on "@" in url or doi field, AND there are \_ in the field, I copy the content of the field, I replace all occurrences of \_ by _, and then I paste the resulted string to the browser so it can open the correct URL. Perhaps I'm missing something obvious. Perhaps, the solution of the "_" problem is not for the end user to replace _ by \_ in the url and doi field. Perhaps a concrete example about how do you manage an entry with _ character in doi or url field in BibDesk can be instructive. Thanks. I also have a suggestion: when we import citations from certains scientific journals, they automatically add an abstract in the abstract field, but often the abstract is text with Unicode characters (for example: greek letters, astronomical symbols). These Unicode characters prevent the TeX Preview to run. It will be great if with a bouton we can keep the abstract for later reading, but without including it in the .bib file, stored in another place. But perhaps this cannot be made with the database structure of BibDesk, if it only uses a .bib file for all the stored information. Try with https://iopscience.iop.org/export?type=article&doi=10.3847/2041-8213/ab0ec7&exportFormat=iopexport_bib&exportType=abs&navsubmit=Export+abstract. Also, what about the very few .bst style available in BibTeX style menu? Why only English, German, Polish .bst style? If only English .bst style are displayed, OK. But making available also German and Polish without other languages is strange. Perhaps this question needs another thread. > Le 23 mai 2024 à 01:19, Christiaan Hofman <[email protected]> a écrit : > > That is about bibtex, and therefore latex.The TeX preview is generated by > laTeX and bibTeX. BibnDesk is just an app that uses it and to maintain the > database. > > Christiaan > >> On 23 May 2024, at 01:04, quark67 via Bibdesk-users >> <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> My question is not about LaTeX, it is about BibDesk. >> >> Steps to reproduce the problem. >> >> Go to settings, TeX preview, enter "elsarticle-num" without quotes in BiBTeX >> style menu/field. Validate. >> >> Copy: >> >> @book{wigner, >> author = {Eugene Paul Wigner}, >> doi = {10.1007/978-3-663-02555-9}, >> publisher = {Springer}, >> title = {{Gruppentheorie und ihre Anwendung auf die Quantenmechanik der >> Atomspektren}}, >> year = {1931}} >> >> On BibDesk, add this entry with alt+cmd+L. >> >> Select this new entry if necessary. >> >> Click on Editing. On "Doi" field, there is a little icon with "@" at the >> right side, if you click, you go to the Springer page about this book. Works >> as expected. >> >> Return on BibDesk app, click on TeX Preview. >> >> This will work as expected and displays: >> >> [1] E. P. Wigner, Gruppentheorie und ihre Anwendung auf die Quantenmechanik >> der Atomspektren, Springer, 1931. doi:10.1007/978-3-663-02555-9. >> >> Perfect. >> >> Yet, copy this entry: >> >> @Inbook{Wigner1931, >> author="Wigner, Eugen", >> title="Vektoren und Matrizen", >> bookTitle="Gruppentheorie und ihre Anwendung auf die Quantenmechanik der >> Atomspektren", >> year="1931", >> publisher="Vieweg+Teubner Verlag", >> address="Wiesbaden", >> pages="1--13", >> isbn="978-3-663-02555-9", >> doi="10.1007/978-3-663-02555-9_1", >> url="https://doi.org/10.1007/978-3-663-02555-9_1"; >> } >> >> On BibDesk, add this entry with alt+cmd+L. >> >> Select this new entry if necessary. >> >> Click on Editing. On "Doi" field, tere is a little icon with "@" at the >> right side, if you click, you go to the Springer page about the chapter >> "Vektoren und Matrizen" of this book. Works as expected. >> >> Return on BibDesk app, click on TeX Preview. >> >> No surprise, this don't work, because of the "_" in the doi and the url >> field. >> >> So what to do? Replace _ by \_ in the doi and url field? >> >> OK, I will try this. >> >> doi="10.1007/978-3-663-02555-9\_1", >> url="https://doi.org/10.1007/978-3-663-02555-9\_1 >> <https://doi.org/10.1007/978-3-663-02555-9/_1>" >> >> I click on TeX Preview. >> >> It works. The TeX Preview displays: >> >> [1] E. Wigner, Vektoren und Matrizen, Vieweg+Teubner Verlag, Wiesbaden, >> 1931, pp. 1–13. doi:10.1007/978-3-663-02555-9_1. >> URL https://doi.org/10.1007/978-3-663-02555-9_1 >> >> Not sure if this is totally correct, because the _ in the url seems not be a >> displayed with a tt font. >> >> But anyway, if you click then on Editing, and the little icon "@" at right >> of the field doi (or url), you go to >> https://doi.org/10.1007/978-3-663-02555-9%5C_1 and this display : >> DOI NOT FOUND >> >> (displayed on https://www.doi.org/ page). >> >> So what is the right way to have at the same time: >> >> a doi with "_" which works with the TeX Preview AND which works when we >> click on the "@" icon in the doi field when we are in Editing mode? >> >> Does BibDesk need an update, so it understands "\_" in the doi field as "_", >> or does the TeX Preview (more precisely ~/Library/Application >> Support/BibDesk/previewtemplate.tex) be updated so it displays a TeX Preview >> even if the doi field contains a "_" (without a backslash) ? >> >> I know that in pure LaTeX, I cannot directly write >> "https://doi.org/10.1007/978-3-663-02555-9_1";, but I can for example load >> the package url and then write >> \url{https://doi.org/10.1007/978-3-663-02555-9_1}. >> >> But here my question is about what to do in the doi field in BibDesk, so >> that: >> • click on the "@" icon at right side of the field works ; >> • and the TeX preview also works. >> >> If this is impossible, the better is to remove the "@" icon in the doi and >> the url field. Or remove the TeX Preview. >> >> But I hope there is another solution. >> >> Thanks. >> >>> Le 22 mai 2024 à 23:03, Christiaan Hofman <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> a écrit : >>> >>> Perhaps the discussion in >>> <https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/383678/underscore-in-bibtex-url> >>> can help. >>> >>> Christiaan >>> >>>> On 22 May 2024, at 21:48, quark67 via Bibdesk-users >>>> <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >>>> How to manage the underscore in DOI or url specifically in BibDesk? >>>> >>>> What is the recommended method? >>>> >>>> We cannot replace "_" by "\_" because in the DOI or url field of BibDesk, >>>> there is a little icon which open the browser to the DOI website with the >>>> number in the DOI field, or to the url displayed in the url field, and an >>>> address like https://www.my-example.com/a\_test >>>> <https://www.my-example.com/a/_test> is NOT the same address as the >>>> address https://www.my-example.com/a_test. >>>> >>>> AND if the "_" is not replaced by "\_", the preview TeX for the >>>> bibliography entry cannot be created (a red error is displayed instead). >>>> >>>> So, please, what is the recommendation for this problem? A complete guide >>>> to this problem can be useful (on the website or the user help). >>>> >>>> If the file ~/Library/Application Support/BibDesk/previewtemplate.tex has >>>> to be edited for this problem, what is the edit to do? I have tried adding >>>> \usepackage[strings]{underscore} in the preamble, but this don't work >>>> (suggested here: https://tex.stackexchange.com/a/523253/132405). >>>> >>>> I don't understand why the DOI organization has chosen the character "_" >>>> as available character for DOI numbers, as the TeX world uses a lot of >>>> DOI, and "_" is special in the TeX world, but this is another question, >>>> not for here. >>>> >>>> For testing, I use in the setting, TeX preview, the "elsarticle-num" >>>> BiBTeX style (manually entered). >>>> >>>> By the way, why this above popup menu don't display all available .bst in >>>> the LaTeX installation, a least the .bst in >>>> /usr/local/texlive/2024/texmf-dist/bibtex/bst? If this list is too big, >>>> there is perhaps a middle between the actual situation (it displays only >>>> abbrv, abbrvnat, acm, alpha, amsalpha, amsplain, apalike, gerabbrv, >>>> geralpha, gerapali, gerplain, ieeetr, jurabib, jureco, plabbrv, plalpha, >>>> plplain, plainnat, siam. Not abbrv-fr, plain-fr for the French, for >>>> example). >>>> >>>> The help says about the list in the popup menu: "This is a list of generic >>>> styles that may or may not exist on your system." Perhaps, but why few >>>> styles for German or Polish, and not French (and other languages)? >>>> >>>> Thanks. > > _______________________________________________ > Bibdesk-users mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
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