-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 19/03/12 00:22, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 12:46 PM, Jos Backus <j...@catnook.com> > wrote: >>> "Finally, Red Hat seems to have largely switched to OpenJDK. >>> This is what JPackage is using for builds as well. > Speaking of which -- what's your read on JPackage. It feels dead to > me (and that's why Bigtop started packaging outside of immediate > Bigdata scope) but I could be wrong. > >>> There has been no need to build a nosrc.rpm for a while now, >>> assuming you're willing to give up the Oracle JDK for the >>> OpenJDK in your base OS." >>> >>> How do people here feel about this move? > I think we have to bite the bullet and start supporting OpenJDK. At > least as an alternative JDK to Oracle's one. That said I had > reports about silly incompatibilities (like what a null would > produce when turned into a string or something) that trip up Hadoop > big time and nobody wants to spend time debugging it.
We did discuss this as a long term goal when bigtop formed; As a distro developer who has no option other than to use OpenJDK for the majority of my work I would like to help resolve these issues - I think its important for the long term health of Hadoop and OpenJDK. I also know quite a few of the OpenJDK developers and I know they are focussed on making OpenJDK great so it then just comes down to user choice rather that a complete no-go (which incidentally I don't think it is ATM). I think the other thing that I don't see much movement on is the switch to Java7 - technically this should make things much easier as OpenJDK 7 and Oracle Java 7 are pretty much the same thing. Fedora are already working on removing OpenJDK6 (see [0]) and I expect to start doing the same in Ubuntu/Debian in the next few months... Most OpenJDK development is now also focussed on 7 not 6.... [0] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Java7 - -- James Page Ubuntu Core Developer -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJPZvuoAAoJEL/srsug59jDin0P/RRhLpbTTZ/8g1GB643QT0SF F+/Eb71bemCbHpghESgqv8CLqyY+j7hUtNw9mKbAjfCY1+fBViZ8jkcUdwb6MpKF sAsi19qH75v6kPIzVKWB5ObTkYzEEjE+bAKL6fZK7wLX4zPMEEUt4oEokfb+q+pV Q336Uv5hCR8gAbdNfNy5Rs2wnGHfxNcHQhS0Zav63/c7K4jhBRoLvXeVbTp9TO1l 40Jd6rDwtkMUFiS3RgZ8UtmdktWOe4VIr+BJdgt+LRq0dE9fWLh15H9PDu277WdW x2u1o+SddSC8P3/331BX9dD/aBK09c/RnTfLY179lHP6bw3LHc0DvprTwU9jNvOQ p+bS1YMmwkPxRV+MTizrk78qa/joLG0wTOvBfw9k7IRbLoyM1r+uDL1eghoPLnRE CEn7nIAOx8ubuNMCmuee67HnAt4UHIIXJAThPwXj/fvp4Td+2TJg0s2TFjLLhANK +WORW9j1DJSnLlSkMOxYvjew30IVGsi9KFJ0GOw7+ER07qyC+8LhEaMx0vOlCgSK BnDIEhwS27MHTOFpPqqIeItvHy18soiA8jvmEFAqB+SCtmVag3VPzj+QKcssOqyI vmbYY2E7b9E/BOPhwLFVzLpgMTMUH5AXjVfgl0Tdd75yxNYYRYro9FoEdB1CuggK 8E8JyCEtWNVJDBVwn3sC =Rt08 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----