On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 12:22PM, Bruno MahИ wrote: > On 08/24/2012 05:31 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > >Hi! > > > >On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 11:13 PM, MTG dev <d...@magnatempusgroup.net> wrote: > >> I was wondering if the artifacts you have published are an > >>Apache only release or other vendors can share their distributions as > >>well using the same entry point? We keep supporting 1.x line of Hadoop and > >>it might be useful for people who are using this version and plan to stay > >>on in for some time. > > > >Personally, I'd be very much in favor of folks stepping in to support > >that code line. > >If the upcoming 0.3.1 release could be hosted by you guys I see it as very > >beneficial to the project. > > > >Unless anybody from the community objects there shouldn't be any issue with > >that as far as I can tell -- you just update the repo/list files and > >point to your > >website. > > > >Thanks, > >Roman. > > > > Hi, > > I am also all in favor of having and helping community members > stepping in to help support that branch and even host some > convenience artefacts. > But I am a little bit confused by what is exactly being asked. > > Is it about having a section on the wiki listing derivatives of > Apache Bigtop (incubating) or is it about making the dist directory > pointing to MTG? > > The only issue is that it looks like from > http://www.magnatempusgroup.net/blog/2012/05/25/mtg-release-0-3-1/ > that this distribution is a derivative of Apache Bigtop (incubating) > and not just convenience artefacts of Apache Bigtop (incubating) > releases. We cannot advertise derivatives of Apache Bigtop > (incubating) as convenience artefacts of specific releases of Apache > Bigtop (incubating). > http://www.magnatempusgroup.net/ftphost/releases/MTG-0.3.1/fedora16/oozie/oozie-3.1.3-1.fc16.src.rpm > indicates Oozie is indeed patched. > > Derivatives can be listed on the wiki there in any case: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/BIGTOP/Powered+By+Bigtop > There could also be an entire section dedicated to them if needed.
Bruno, the reason we have put this patch (OOZIE-810) and another one fixing dependencies in the Hadoop (HADOOP-8417) because without these the stack wasn't functional. We could not publish non-working bits - it would completely negate the purpose of it. I see your point about not referring a derivatives of BigTop through the Apache dist. Now, if I remember correctly (and I am in no position to lecture people here), Apache project releases consist of source code; binaries are published pretty much as a courtesy of a release manager. If so - and please correct me if I am wrong - then Magna Tempus Group release is equivalent to that of BigTop and only provides convenience artifacts for the consumption of the end users. At any rate, it is up to the people in the project to make the decision. Regards, Alef.
