Tracy makes some good points. it might be a good thing for the bike coalition to contact the reporter of the article, DiCicco's office, street's dept and the mayor with a compromise solution, like the one suggested by Tracy. Since keeping the right turn restrictions is probably not a winable battle, what would be the best way to come out of this looking like a winner- be the one who suggests & pushes for the compromise. This strategy has a number of benefits 1. it makes the bike coalition look strong & in control of the situation 2. it turns a loss into a victory 3. it forces the streets dept to do a new engineering concept (or at least something different) that is apparently being used in the city that is the poster child for bikes (maybe if they try this, they'll try other things from Portland) 4. signage that says yield to bikes/transit, even if this is kind of questionable engineering and may not work the best, is at least another visual reminder that cars should yield to bikes & buses. Sue ============================================================ From: "Tracy Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 2002/05/03 Fri AM 10:17:36 EDT To: "'Mike'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'John Boyle'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: "'Bike'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Re[2]: A Council bill to allow the turns on part of Chestnut Streetmoved forward.
I agree that it is not clear from the article whether the bike lane will be eliminated completely or just allow right turns. Where I am from in Oregon, we will often have right turns crossing bike lanes and HOV lanes. Usually this situation is accompanied by signage for cars indicating that bikes and transit have the right of way. Also, there is usually some dashed lane striping that identifies at what point the vehicle traffic can cross over. Obviously, it is not ideal, but at least the majority of the lane would remain restricted. Tracy ---- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the Bicycle Coalition of the Delaware Valley list named "bike." To subscribe or unsubscribe or for archive information, see <http://www.purple.com/list.html>. ============================================================ ********************************** Sue McNamara Tancredi Philadelphia Coordinator Tri-State Transportation Campaign 327 South 43rd Street Philadelphia, PA 19104 215.243.2026 phone 215.243.2029 fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the Bicycle Coalition of the Delaware Valley list named "bike." To subscribe or unsubscribe or for archive information, see <http://www.purple.com/list.html>.
