To me, the ***BIG*** minus to this is that since (as Robbie says) there are no left "exits" from the Square, cyclists using the inner lane would have to cross *two* lanes of gasmobile traffic, to their right, to get off the Square. How 'bout this:
* Make an outermost bike lane, obviously too narrow for car traffic. Mark it mid-block, as it is now, _AND_ at every intersection. * At each intersection, on the left lane-line demarking the lane, plant a "Right Turn Yield" sign. Put it right in the pavement. Or, if necessary, put in an outer curb all the way 'round, like the one between the left car lane of University Ave and the counterflow bike lane. * Or, along with the above lane, make the next lane out a "turn-off/turn-only" lane, similar to what exists. But put a "Stop" or "Yield" at _each_ intersection. Then make the innermost lane the car "thru" lane, similar to what Robbie describes. Basically, this is Robbie's scenario, but with the bike lane moved to the outside. D'OH, but the buses have to stop on the outside. ARGH! Generally, bike lanes to the left of car traffic give me the willies. Cars don't expect it; on the too-seldom occasion they are looking for bicycles, they're generally looking to the right. It's also hard to blend, when necessary (such as turning off the Square in Robbie's scenario), into car traffic, as most of us have mirrors only on our left side, not the right. I'm still waiting on some techno-solution for bus-bike lanes that would allow buses to go past or over an obstruction, bikes to go between or around them, but would physically stop a car from going thru. This would work on places like Mineral Point Rd as well as the Square. Ideas? From: Robbie Webber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > My solution (and maybe if I tell enough people someone else will like > it).... repaint the lanes like this: > * Right lane is normal width and labeled for buses, deliveries, right turns > (and lost people). Everyone seems to want to drive in that lane anyway. * > Middle lane is normal width and is "through" traffic * Between middle lane and > parked cars (far inner traffic lane) is a bike lane - too narrow for cars to > drive in. Maybe even allow this lane (bicyclists) a through green? > > There is virtually no left turns off the Square - that would be towards the > Capitol. Let the motoring public of all sizes and types fight it out on the > outside, and let us just get where we are going without being tailgated or cut > off. ------------------- Paul T. O'Leary Desktop Insurgent Madison, WI USA _______________________________________________ Bikies mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.danenet.org/mailman/listinfo/bikies
