This reply to Paul's comments was sent to bikies,
where it bounced to me,
and is now making its way to bikies.


FYI: Shawn is the City of Middleton staff person doing the
planning for Pheasant Branch Road.


>Paul,
>
>Not being familiar with the geography will make this question a little
>difficult
>to address.  While Mark Opitz offered some excellent input to me, I'd like to
>show you the design constraints we're looking at, and explain it at the public
>informational meeting next Monday.  Part of what we need to consider is the
>rapidly growing use by motor vehicles, part of what we need to consider is the
>country-wide trend toward an increase in speeding, part of what we need to
>consider is that the current pavement width doesn't allow for motorists to
>pass
>bicycles without entering the oncoming traffic lane, and part of what we
>need to
>consider is the possibility of adding an intersection with a new road to a
>subdivision (currently at a blind spot just over the crest of a hill).
>
>The current posted speed limit for this collector street is 30 mph.  If we
>wanted to adjust the speed limit to match the physical conditions, we
>would need
>a posted speed limit of 15 mph.  The Public Works Committee may want to
>consider
>if they believe that to be a more reasonable option, but I won't be the one
>recommending it.
>
>Thanks for your interest in this project.  We hope to design a road that
>can be
>used by several different modes of transportation.
>
>Shawn Stauske
>City of Middleton
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
>> Of Paul T. O'Leary
>> Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 2:41 PM
>> To: Mark Opitz; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: RE: [Bikies] Pheasant Branch
>>
>> I'm not familiar with the geography, but I presume the safety concerns are
>> about visibility and reaction time to traffic events based on existing speed
>> limits. Rather than re-shaping, in very small part, the planet's surface in
>> order to accomodate a speed limit, wouldn't a more reasonable option be to
>> adjust the speed limit to match the physical conditions?
>>
>> > From: "Mark Opitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >
>> > From my discussions over the past few months with the project engineer, I
>> > know that some mature oak trees will be lost if there is ANY widening or
>> > "lowering" of the road.  By "lowering" I'm referring to the plan to
>> improve
>> > sight distance by cutting down the top of the hill located near the
>> parking
>> > area overlooking Pheasant Branch Conservancy.  I'm told that the specific
>> > reason for this proposal is to accommodate more safely a future street
>> > connection with the Middleton Hills neighborhood.
>>
>> ---------------
>> Paul T. O'Leary
>> Desktop Insurgent
>> Madison, WI USA
>>
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