Michael, I'm returning our discussion back to the listserv, as it seems
we were about finished with it anyway (tomorrow is voting day!) and the
general comments might be of interest to others.  Thanks for the exchange
of opinion.

I just have two points to make..  One, I have never said we shouldn't
have other viable alternatives to auto travel to go along with the
drive-less annual rebates.  I think investing in quality transit for the
suburbs is a fine viable alternative.  However, the ones who make use of
it should pay for it, not those of us paying high taxes here in the city
already.

Secondly, what makes you so sure all those big wide highways like the
Verona Rd./HWY 151 area aren't going to still be here even if we do offer
rail transit?  They will be of course.  Putting a alternative systems
like rail will just be more taking of land for transportation purposes. 
That's why I think going for just more and cleaner buses is better than
rail.  They are also more flexible in getting to places.  And if we can
get more people to use them rather than drive, the congestion should go
down on the existing highways as well, because one bus can replace 60 or
so SOVs going back and forth from Sprawlsville to downtown Madison or the
university.   And by getting by without rail transit, there will be less
blockages for bicyclists, pedestrians and cars and buses that do still
use the roads.  We'd also still have the South West Corridor bicycle
path, too, because we won't have to give it back up for rail
transportation..

What is comes down to is this:  people need to live closer to where they
do things every day, so that they can use nonfossil fuel energy sources
(like food for example), for most of their daily living.  That's the way
things were before the automobile (except for the farmers and ranchers I
suppose).  But it order to go back to that, we have to stop subsidizing
automobile travel, in a big way.  It has to become in people's best
interest to not rely on auto travel so much, financial and otherwise. 
Either making driving prohibitively expensive by raising gas taxes to
where they should be, in combination with paying people who find ways to
get by without driving so much, would be just the ticket.  Perhaps we can
ask the new mayor to give this matter some serious consideration.  The
alternative is more traffic, more pollution, more congestion, wider
highways, and increasing greenhouse gas emissions from Dane County.

Michael Neuman
http://danenet.danenet.org/bcp/trans/neuman_vmt.html
http://danenet.wicip.org/bcp/neuman_gw.pdf
"The ultimate test of man's conscience may be his willingness to
sacrifice something today for future generations whose words of thanks
will not be heard."
- Gaylord Nelson, Earth Day founder



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