In Message: 5, Chuck wrote on Tue, 16 Sep 2003 10:10:31 -0500:

> needed to formulate any feasible plans. so I invite all of you to reply
> again with concise answers to the following questions:
> 
> Would you be willing to pay for covered, secure (however that's
> accomplished) bike parking?

The only bike parking I would consider for a fee would be a bicycle locker 
(reserved/dedicated access).  I can't imagine any other form of bicycle parking for 
which a fee could be justified.  Providing bicycle parking is just like any other 
"zoning"/planning requirement.  If you want to be granted the privilege of doing 
business in a community, you gotta provide bicycle parking of at least a specified 
minimum standard.

 
In Message: 7, Jesse the K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Mon, 15 Sep 2003 14:39:34 
-0500:
> 
> FYI, Mike, the decision of Route 10's fate is planned for the public
> hearing (on both fare increases & route changes). That meeting is

Fare increases??  Again???  How many times and by how much have fares (cash fares, 
tickets, passes, stripped-down "commuter" passes not good on weekends, et cetera) 
ALREADY gone up in the last ten years?  Enough is enough!  The cash fare is already 
too expensive for the low (and decreasing) level of service provided, and the ticket 
rates only barely tolerable (but a poor value for isthmus zone trips).  The only 
positive step I've seen on fares in recent years have been the UW/MATC pass agreements 
(the bike racks have been a positive measure, too, but that's not really a fare issue 
other than that it potentially extends the reach of the system to un(der)served 
areas), but nothing for the rest of us.  How many more riders do you want to "drive" 
away from using the system?  Get to work on cutting fares and increasing usage; either 
that or give up on the pretence that we even have a transit system in this city.

(BTW, what is the fare increase proposal?  It was not specified on the referenced 
webpage.)

> The hearing notice is a link from the front of Metro's website
> http://www.mymetrobus.com/2003/PublicHearings/0903Hearing/PubHearingSept2203.htm

Any idea on why Madison is getting on this disturbing trend of downgrading/demeaning 
its URLs from government to ".com"  Aside from the philosophical objection, coming up 
with "cute"  ".com" identifiers makes it more difficult to find government 
information.  When governments use the standard conventions like www.state.[ST].us, 
www.ci.[CITY].[ST].us, www.co.[COUNTY].[ST].us, et cetera, you have no trouble finding 
the information for a particular place without having to know or guess what they call 
it.  But when you move away from uniform URL formats, it's a crapshoot.  Who's to know 
that it's "cityofmadison.com," "milwaukee.gov," "denvergov.org," "in.gov," or 
whatever?   If Madison, Wisconsin is cityofmadison.com, then what's Madison, Illinois, 
or Madison, Mississippi??

Okay, this is getting off the bike thing.  It's just that anyone out there without 
having to see a URL can fill in the blanks and guess www.ci.madison.wi.us (and follow 
it to transit or buses).  Who's going to guess cityofmadison.com or mymetrobus.com??



Now go have a beer,

Bob Paolino

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