---- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
> And in a further twist, let's suppose there is a motor vehicle in back
> of the bicyclists, but the presence of the bicyclists physically
> prevents the motorist from actuating the signal.  Now, everyone is
> stuck.  It seems reasonable that the bicyclists should be allowed to
> proceed through the intersection (under the other conditions of the
> law) and allow the motor-vehicle to trip the light.

I wouldn't call this just a "twist". This used to happen to me, oh, about 100% 
of the time, at E. Wash and N/S Ingersoll, before that infernal trigger system 
was, mercifully, decommissioned with the E Wash recon. This is not an 
"exceptional" case. And I'm sure I wasn't the trailing deathmobile driver's 
favorite person in the world at the time, waiting for the impossible to happen.

Okay, it's great the _city_ is trying to do something about the systems they 
control. But that's going about it the wrong way. STATE law defines bicycles as 
vehicles, and the STATE (remember, they're the guys who, Constitutionally we 
ALLOW to govern us) should be FORBIDDEN from installing ANY traffic device that 
discriminates against bicycles, on any thoroughfare that allows bicycles. Maybe 
_that_ is how the statute should be written.
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Paul T. O'Leary
Desktop Insurgent
Madison, WI USA

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