Dear Jeff Schimpff,

Without sounding "redundant", maybe you should read just what I was asking
Richard Schwinn-----and it wasn't a continuation of just what is or isn't
coercive land planning, called--Smart Growth!  Does every word trigger a
thread going off at "ninety degrees?"  Maybe you will break into another
description of the global warming controversy or "peak oil?"

EW

"Schimpff, Jeff A - DNR" wrote:

>
>
> It sounds like someone would like to know more about comprehensive
> planning in Wisconsin, sometimes referred to as "smart growth."  Here at
> the link below is a brief, good summary of what state law requires.
>
> Aside from requiring that a few paragraphs and maps be included in a
> plan to describe the current conditions and future desired conditions of
> a community, regarding  8 or 9 elements that are common to good land use
> plans everywhere, and a requirement that plans be reviewed every ten
> years, there is nothing "coercive" or prescriptive about comprehensive
> planning as required by the Wisconsin legislature.
>
> All the details are left up to local citizens and their elected
> representatives.  Your local plan stinks?  Property rights being
> trampled? Your community is a lousy place to live or do business?  Then
> clean out "city hall" and start over.  This does not fit even the
> loosest concept of a "coercive" system:
>
> http://learningstore.uwex.edu/pdf/G3749.pdf
>
> Jeff Schimpff
> Bureau of Science Services
> Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources
> "Bus, Bike, Walk or Carpool to Work for Clean Air for Kids"
> (*) phone:      (608) 267- 7853
> (*) fax:                (608) 267-5231
> (*) e-mail:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Eric Westhagen
> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 3:46 PM
> To: BikiesSubmissions
> Subject: [Bikies] Vagueness in Richard Schwinn's Statement
>
> Dear Richard,
>
> I am not clear as to what you have said in this paragraph.  In your
> earlier paragraph you say that you "personally" agree with coercive land
> planning, called SMART GROWTH in this context.  But then you say: . .
> .----
>
> <"While I have no reason to believe that anyone was trying to mislead
> the board with this statement, there was also no specific approval of
> it, either.  Eliminating this reference doesn't mean the Bike Fed or the
> Board rejects Smart Growth or other causes.  It means the organization
> can focus more on bicycles.">
>
> It would seem to me that an organization should "officially" act
> according to their "policy or platform" as determined by their board.
> Particularly this should be  the case when an advocacy organization
> seeks "publicly financed money, either in grants or contracts."  But
> this is only honesty with paying members as well.  If the policy then
> includes------"coersive land reform" as well as direct bicycle issues,
> then potential members would weigh the conflicts with their own
> "values."  But if the group intends to advocate with full scale lobbying
> or "official" letters of support for "emissions controls, anti-war,
> political parties, land reforms, collectivist housing, re-establishing
> mandatory zoning for or against auto parking, etc., etc.,"----------THEN
> IT SHOULD BE STATED DIRECTLY IN POLICY STATEMENTS FOR MEMBERS AND OTHER
> "FUNDERS."  THAT IS BASIC HONESTY.  Certainly we all deplore dishonest
> lobbies, which abound, when they do not agree with use, therefore such
> practices should not be suggested or condoned with BFW.
>
> Eric Westhagen
>
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