On Jan 7, 2008, at 11:05 AM, Michael von Schneidemesser wrote:
Whoa, not so fast!
Invasive or not-native, they still may be desirable.  In this case providing shade and emotional comfort to at least one bike rider.  And there is no way to replace these functions immediately with native trees. As it is, ever since the arrival of the white man, the landsscape has been changed a lot, and there is no way to go back to the pre-columbian state of nature - some too eager and well meaning people are trying and in the process not only use up lots of labor and other resources, but also pollute our not so pristine environment further by applying herbicides to the invasives. Some non-native species, who are a lot more invasive and annoying are Buckthorn and Garlic Mustard, and Kudzu in the South. If our society wants to undertake a herculean effort to return to a previous state of nature, they would be the ones to start with.  Talk to the state parks people or the UW Arboretum managers, they have given up on trying to eliminate them or even contain them.  And they are willing to use Roundup - and who knows what long-run effects that might have - remember DDT!

Invasive species need to be removed whether they are really aggressive and destructive or just aggressive and destructive. I have seen woodlands with almost no other plants living (and as a result few animals as well) due to the heavy shading of Norway Maple and the aggressive clonal growth of black locust. Just because they don't work quite as quickly as buckthorn or garlic mustard does not mean they do not need to be controlled, especially when there are wonderful native alternatives such as sugar maple and honey locust.

The goal of natural areas restoration is to re-establish a stable natural community. Pre-settlement communities are used as a model because these environments were stable with a high diversity of plants and animals for thousands of years. There is rarely an attempt to replicate the site conditions in 1492 or 1830, but instead the goal is to get the site back within a natural range of variability so that species and ecological processes can establish and maintain themselves. Without invasive species control work these natural areas would collapse and eventually most of the native plants and animals in wisconsin would go extinct.

Most natural areas restoration work is done by volunteers. What better way to spend ones time then volunteering, being out-doors in nature working to make a positive change? I don't think any land managers have given up on battling invasive species, they simply need to choose their battles due to inadequate resources. As for the toxicity of pesticides, that is a whole other discussion but for one thing glyphosate (the active ingredient in Round-Up) is non-residual, it breaks down to inert chemicals after a few weeks where as DDT is residual. Furthermore, when used by natural areas managers herbicides are used with the utmost care and in extremely small quantities, after all the goal is to reduce the amount of damage done by the invasive weeds. Finally, it would be foolish to claim that glyphosate is totally safe, but it would also be foolish to claim that the chemical that makes your toothpaste bright blue is safe as well.

Getting back to the  Fellows Road  and Lodi-Springfield Roads:
How about a compromise? Cut down every other tree, or those most likely to drop branches, replant with native/approved species, and 10-15 years later cut down the remainder of the original trees.

I agree that a compromise such as this might be a viable solution.

ride on,
Frank Hassler
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--Marc Reisner "Cadillac Desert"
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