Responding to points from Troy's last two posts:

1. I didn't mention anything about job centers because all I did was post a
link to a program that WPR had produced and broadcast. If anyone listened to
it or followed the links, the program covered more than just land use
issues. They also talked about the social and psychological aspects of
suburban living.

2. Troy is of course correct that Realtors may or may not follow the lead of
suburban developers. They have specialty niches just as we all do. Some have
no clue how to show and sell an urban unit, nor do they have any desire to
do so. Others show and sell almost exclusively urban units. And, of course,
some do mostly commercial real estate, and never have anything to do with
residential housing choices.

However, I have heard too many stories from friends and colleagues in other
areas of Wisconsin and the US about trying to buy a place in the city that
is walkable, bike-able and transit friendly, and being shown only houses
with no sidewalks, a predominance of cul-de-sacs, and no access to regular
transit service. This especially seems typical when a professional family is
moving to a new city. The agent sees/hears a certain professional class, and
assumes that the family will want to live in the 'burbs. My friends have
repeatedly said, "No, I want to live where I can walk to the store!" or,
"Don't show me anything without sidewalks!" and yet the agent shows them
places on the edge of town with all the uses and economic classes
segregated.

Of course, what happens is that the buyer gets incredibly frustrated with
the agent, and they both waste lots of time going to unsuitable houses.
Several friends have dumped  their agent because there was such a lack of
communication.

Sadly, some buyers are less forceful than my friends, or they simply lack
knowledge of the city where they are relocating, and they end up buying in
an area they don't really like, or that isn't suitable for them. What they
want is a nice house in the city. The agent, however, shows them only
typical doctor/lawyer/executive houses. Because they have so little time to
look, or don't know the city well enough to know what neighborhoods they
would enjoy, they buy what they don't really want.

As I said, this is a story that comes back again and again. I just had the
same conversation with a number of professional couples in Stevens Point.

Robbie



Robbie

On Feb 4, 2008 12:23 PM, Troy Thiel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Matt,
>
> Thanks for posting!  Your earlier post seemed to suggest that my industry
> is in lockstep with pro sprawl developers...which is of course simply not
> true.  Everyone has their opinion and many of are strong proponent for
> appropriate infill...it's not just about housing though of course...there
> are other pieces of the puzzle to help drive market demand!
>


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