Aaron,

Health and homeowners insurance won't pay for lost income.  You would need
disability insurance as well which is pricey.  Furthermore, if you make a
claim on your insurance, your rates will likely go up.  If you work at a
small employer like I do, everybody's health insurance rates in the company
could go up substantially due to one large claim by one employee, e.g., from
a severe crash with a motor vehicle while biking.  This seems unfair to me.
The person responsible should be held accountable.  Maybe we need to make a
change in state law because this is an issue for the elderly without cars
who might be hit as pedestrians.

Mark
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 9:38 AM, Aaron Crandall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   I understand. However, I know a lot of folks who do have health &
> homeowners insurance, so those folks can't use this excuse. Also, I believe
> if you have renters or homeowners ins, you should be able to submit a claim
> for damage sustained to your bicycle, if the damage is above & beyond your
> deductable. -Aaron
>
> --- On *Tue, 9/16/08, Matthew Berigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
>
> From: Matthew Berigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Fw: [Bikies] World CarFree Day - 9/22
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 8:25 AM
>
>
>  Right! But there are a LOT of folks out there without health insurance.
> See stats at:
>   http://dhs.wisconsin.gov/localdata/fhs/index.htm
>
> Also - health insurance covers your health bills. There are a lot of other
> costs associated with accidents (minimally replacement of bicycle but also
> loss of income etc.).
>
> This point on uninsured motorists is a very interesting question.
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Aaron Crandall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: bikies <[email protected]>; George Perkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 11:34:13 PM
> Subject: RE: [Bikies] World CarFree Day - 9/22
>
>   Isn't that what health insurance is for?
>
> --- On *Mon, 9/15/08, George Perkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
>
> From: George Perkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: [Bikies] World CarFree Day - 9/22
> To: "'Aaron Crandall'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'bikies'" <
> [email protected]>
> Date: Monday, September 15, 2008, 11:29 PM
>
> One issue with a car-less lifestyle in a car-more culture is insurance
> coverage against the risk of uninsured (and hit-and-run) motorists.
>
> As I understand things, lacking car ownership and insurance coverage of
> same, if an intoxicated hit-and-run mows you down, you are screwed with no
> means to pay for healthcare, pain and suffering, permanent disability,
> property damage, etc. The only way to get coverage against this kind of risk
> is if you purchase uninsured motorist insurance (which you can only carry if
> you own a motor vehicle and purchase that option). I looked into this a
> couple of years ago when I was considering Community Car. Not having the
> uninsured coverage coupled with the high cost of a policy for a vacation car
> rental (you are lumped into the high risk pool if you don't already own a
> car and have coverage). Community Car carries insurance when you are driving
> their vehicles, but it does not extend to other situations. And you can't
> take a Community Car on your 2-week vacation to the Rocky Mountains.
>
> Any car-free people out there who have already researched this and found a
> way to insure themselves in these situations, please tell Community Car and
> have them update their FAQ. (And post here).
>
> Our household did manage to downsize from 2 to 1 vehicle this year. It is
> working fine. But I can't imagine (even if the practical matters of kids,
> night shift work, etc. were resolved) going from 1 to 0 cars until the
> hit-and-run and uninsured motorist risk is resolved. I think it would
> require a change to the way insurance is regulated in this state.
>
>
>
>
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