I'd accidentally sent this to just Robbie yesterday, when I'd intended to send 
it to the entire list for discussion.

 -----Original Message-----
From:   Krause, Dorothy
Sent:   Wednesday, December 10, 2008 3:16 PM
To:     '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject:        Re: [Bikies] bus fare increase

Thanks for that, Robbie. Along the same lines, when I went to MATC, apparently 
I would have been eligible for a free bus pass, tho I didn't get one because I 
drove. I think the UW has an arrangement like that as well. How do those work?

I've also wondered whether transit gets gas tax money? It would seem that would 
be a relative fair way of spreading out the cost, as well as being a bit of a 
'sin tax' on us auto drivers.

Thanks for info!

Dorothy

On 12/10/2008 2:55:13 PM, Robbie Webber ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

I would add Larry Palm to that list. He works for the Madison schools, and
talked about how hard this fare increase would be on kids and parents.

And since we are on the subject of schools and transportation, let's look at
how Metro works with the schools to provide transportation to middle and
high school kids.

Besides the discounted youth fares - both single fare and ten-ride passes
are available to kids 5-17 (or in high school if they are older) - there are
semester passes that either parents or the school district purchase for the
kids. Families that qualify for free and reduced lunches - which is about
43% of middle and high school kids - are provided a semester pass that is
paid for my the school district. These "indigent" passes are purchased at a
discount by the school district, but as of 2010 (or maybe 2011), the school
district would pay the regular cost for these youth semester passes. That
means more costs to the school district, and less money for other things in
the schools. Right now, the schools spend over $1 million/year on these
indigent passes.

Families that do not qualify for free and reduced lunches can purchase a
semester pass for $125/semester at today's rates. Some of these families may
also be finding it difficult to pay that cost, especially if they don't have
the money for the semester pass at the beginning of the school term. These
families then either pay higher per-ride fares or maybe drive the kids to
school.

In addition, there are the paratransit fares that also rise as regular fares
rise. Paratransit is used by people with disabilities that cannot use
fixed-route buses, either all the time, or occasionally, such as winter,
when they may not be able to get to the bus or board the bus at the stop
because of snow. Paratransit rides are usually a multiple of the cash fare.

Social service agencies also buy passes or tickets for their clients so they
can get to appointments to look for jobs, housing, health care, child care,
and other needs.

My point is that there is a cascade effect when "regular" fares are raised.
Lots of other people and institutions then have to absorb those costs, and
maybe shift money from other services or needs.

Robbie

  
  
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