The newer Pearl Izumi lobster gloves are OK w/liners. My hands usually stay 
pretty comfy, as long as I use my glove liners. -Aaron




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From: Steve Drake <[email protected]>
To: John Martin <[email protected]>; bikies <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 1:17:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Bikies] -6F mitt suggestions?

I would suggest hunting down an old pair of Pearl Izumi lobster gloves, but 
don't make the mistake of getting a new pair. The company had a great design 
around 15 years ago when I bought mine. I used them all winter for the past 
10-years. A couple of years ago the gloves were showing their age, so I bought 
a new pair of Pearl Izumi's- now called amphib's. Comparatively speaking, those 
gloves were garbage. They were much too thin to keep my hands warm below 25 
deg. F Besides that they had defective stitching and no longer had adequate 
wrist gauntlets. I cut my losses by selling the new gloves on EBay and stitched 
up the worn spots on the old gloves.

By the beginning of this season the insulation in the old gloves had collapsed 
to the point where they weren't very warm anymore. Luckily, I was able to find 
a nice clean pair of old-style Pearl Izumi's on EBay for 35 bucks. These gloves 
with a light liner kept my fingers toasty at -10 deg. F on my 25 - minute ride 
this morning. 

If you go looking for a pair of these, EBay has been the only place I've found 
them.  Look for blue and purple coloring and nice wrist gauntlets which are 
held in place by an elastic band. 
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Good Luck,

Steve

---- John Martin <[email protected]> wrote: 
> This morning the 30 minute ride in was cold (-6F). I had 40g  
> thinsulate mittens with fleece finger-lining inside -- any thicker and  
> I'll barely be able to grip the handlebars. For the most part, my  
> hands stayed warm, but my fingertips (mostly thumbtips) suffered.
> 
> Does anyone here have ideas on extremely cold finger protection? I've  
> read that battery-heated gloves work on palms, but not fingers. I  
> can't imagine any non-heated gloves would keep my fingers warm, and  
> thicker mitts are too thick. What (specifically) have you long-time  
> winter bikers found works on days like today (besides the bus ;-).
> 
> only now thawed enough to type,
> John
> 
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