Michael,

Thank you for your reply and hard work for ALL users of Wisconsin's
transportation systems.

I missed the public notice for the pedestrian bridge going out. The over-all
Park St. highway interchange project I know has been in the works for a long
time. I am only one interested member of the public, and a frequent (former,
now) user of the pedestrian overpass. But I am engaged in the process and
keenly aware of transportation-related issues; therefore I don't understand
how I missed this key detail. Since the City of Madison engineering
department wasn't aware of the timing either, it seems as if the public
outreach element of the project could bear some scrutiny with thought
towards future projects' public communications. 

In my original e-mail below I think I outlined the significant dependency
the non-automotive public had on this bridge. A detour that is 1½ miles
(round-trip) out of a pedestrian's way is as if there is no detour at all.
The problems with the detour (lacking pedestrian sidewalks on both sides of
the approaches) is an oversight (not having added better pedestrian safety
elements prior to designating it a detour). And of course, minimizing the
time that the pedestrian bridge is out of service is very important; it
seems as if it could have been left operational longer. I'm sure you must
balance many competing priorities, but please do not overlook those of us
who choose not to, or cannot, drive a motor vehicle.

Because I have been out of town, I have not looked for or seen detour
signage (and now that it would be 1½ miles out of my way to do so, it isn't
something I'll do casually). Such signage certainly was not present on July
2nd. Pedestrian and bicycle users require as much respect as do motor
vehicle users. You wouldn't dream of closing a bridge on US 12/18 without
putting up detour signage. Why is it okay when the user is not driving a
motor vehicle? 

Our family does, of course, use the local and state road network. We own one
motor vehicle and I am a member of Community Car. I ride the bus, I
occasionally take a taxi. I and my family try to minimize our impact upon
the Earth by walking, biking, and busing whenever possible. Biking and
walking is also good for us. Many of the goods and services we enjoy as
consumers arrive because of the road and highway network. We pay property
taxes for local road maintenance, and fuel taxes for the state and national
highway network. I ride my bike on streets and roads. So yes, I do, in some
way, benefit from the overall improvement of the US 12/18 and Park St.
interchange.  So I am simply emphasizing (with this e-mail) that I am now
severely limited as a pedestrian where I can cross US 12/18 in that part of
town and feel a second-class citizen for no valid reason.

I hope this information is helpful as you plan similar projects in the
future.


Sincerely,
George Perkins
Madison WI 53711
[email protected]





-----Original Message-----
From: Rampetsreiter, Michael - DOT [mailto:[email protected]]

Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 1:44 PM
To: 'Fernandez, Anthony'
Cc: 'George Perkins'; Gust, Jeffrey - DOT; Neuhauser, Curt - DOT; Kopp, Adam
- DOT
Subject: RE: [Bikies] Beltline Hwy 12/18 Ped/Bike Bridge Construction @
East-West Badger Roads / Ski Lane

Tony,

As I noted in a previous e-mail, Jeff Gust noted that Adam Kopp
(construction engineer) will be getting you a set of plans and special
provisions.  If Adam has difficulty in doing so, I can look to get you a
set.

It is true that the existing bridge will be removed soon.

The detour route is to Rimrock Road (bridge).


Mike Rampetsreiter, P.E.
PDS Project Manager
Wisconsin Department of Transportation
DTSD-SW Region (La Crosse/Madison)
Dane Unit - Pod 125C
Madison, WI  53704-2583
direct ph. no.:           (608) 246-7917
front desk ph. no.:     (608) 246-3800
fax number:              (608) 246-5380
e-mail:  [email protected]



-----Original Message-----
From: Fernandez, Anthony [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 8:40 AM
To: 'George Perkins'
Cc: Rampetsreiter, Michael - DOT
Subject: RE: [Bikies] Beltline Hwy 12/18 Ped/Bike Bridge Construction @
East-West Badger Roads / Ski Lane

This is a WisDOT project and their Project Manager is:

Michael Rampetsreiter at (608) 246-7917 or email at
[email protected]

We at City of Madison Engineering have had some input on the design of the
bridge, but I don't recall specific discussion of the construction sequence.
The new bridge is about 100  feet away from the existing bridge.  I was my
assumption that the existing bridge would remain in service throughout most
or all of the time the new bridge was under construction, but that
assumption might not have been correct.  I have copied Michael on this
email, as I would also like more information on the plan is to maintain
existing bike traffic.

Tony Fernandez
[email protected]
voice: 608-266-9219
fax: 608-264-9275
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of George Perkins
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 8:59 PM
To: Dane County Bicycle Transportation Alliance
Subject: [Bikies] Beltline Hwy 12/18 Ped/Bike Bridge Construction @
East-West Badger Roads / Ski Lane

Does anyone know where I can find out what the plans are for the Ped/Bike
bridge over the Beltline U.S. 12/18 Highway at East and West Badger Roads
and Ski Lane?

Apparently WiDOT is constructing a new ped/bike bridge near the same
location. Construction began a couple of weeks ago with brush removal. This
week they are doing some serious digging. Today while crossing I spoke with
a construction worker who helpfully said that the existing bridge would be
closed and removed before the new bridge was completed! I asked about a
detour, and he said he didn't know. I asked about public notice and he said
he didn't know.

Does anyone know if this ped/bike bridge will be closed before the new
bridge is open?

Detours are few and far - probably the only thing remotely available is the
Rimrock Road bridge. That is a sad excuse for a ped/bike detour since it is
at least 1½-miles round trip out of anyone's way. There are no pedestrian
accommodations on the east side of the Rimrock Road bridge. The bridge and
Rimrock do have bicycle lanes, but traffic is notoriously awful and only the
most brave occupy the debris-strewn bike lanes on that bridge.

The ped/bike bridge is served by bus stops on the #13 Metro route (stops
0895 and 0462) on East Badger Road. There is an unnamed Town of Madison and
City of Fitchburg residential-mixed-use neighborhood and Alexander Company's
"Novation" development that straddles the Beltline Highway at the site of
the bike/ped bridge. The bridge is at a confluence of government
jurisdictions. Temporary loss of the bridge effectively means the Indian
Springs Neighborhood and Burr Oaks Neighborhoods are isolated from each
other.

I'm sure the new bridge will bring an improvement to access, and I hope the
construction worker was misinformed when he said the existing bridge would
soon be closed.

_______________________________________________
Bikies mailing list
[email protected]
http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org


_______________________________________________
Bikies mailing list
[email protected]
http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org

Reply via email to