First. I was on the BPW when the Midvale configuration approved. I do not believe we narrowed it, as suggested, from what was put before us.
This is what I sent previously on the same subject. ------------------------------- This project was a marking "retrofit" after the street was resurfaced. There are two 10-foot car lanes and a 12-foot bike/parking lane. Ideally 13 feet would have been better. The car lanes were narrowed from 11 feet in order to get bike accommodations. Hopefully the narrower lanes will slow down the cars. Studies show that a one-foot narrower lane slows down cars from 0 to 3 mph. Yes 13 feet would have been better. That is what WisDOT considers desirable. The AASHTO minimum is 11 feet. The marking could have been a little more precise so that there would have been no pavement marking within the 12 feet bike/parking lane. The 4-inch wide pavement marking should have been entirely in the motor vehicle lane. It all happened with staff, BPW and council support in spite of bikies "favorite" alderoid who spoke at length against encouraging bikes on Midvale. It passed with only one "no" from her. I am very encouraged with the council's positive resolve on bike issues. --------------------------- Mike Rewey -------------------------------------------------- On 27 Aug 2010 at 15:51, Ross, Arthur wrote: Darin, Midvale does meet AASHTO´s minimum width for a combined parking and bike lane. The AASTO guidelines are not on-line but you can stop by my office anytime to review it. It is not what Traffic Engineering proposed and prefers, but there was a political process (and as an advocacy trainer told us when the Bicycle Federation was being organized, "it´s all politics all the time") that wound up narrowing the cross-section from what TE proposed and I believe the Board of Public Works approved. Every project in already developed areas is going to involve a political process as the needs and desires of the neighborhood, businesses and politicians are weighed and balanced. Competing needs/interests will include not only peds, bikes and motor vehicles, but also parking, trees, terrace space (and the use of it for sidewalk cafes, merchandise displays, bicycle parking), etc. For info on the opening of the Badger Trail I would contact Ahna Bizjak, [email protected] Since this a Fitchburg project Arthur Arthur Ross, Pedestrian-Bicycle Coordinator City of Madison Traffic Engineering Division 215 Martin Luther King, Jr. Blvd., Suite 100 PO Box 2986 Madison, WI 53701-2986 608/266-6225 From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of burleigh chorus.net Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 3:18 PM To: Troy Thiel Cc: Dryer, David; [email protected] Subject: Re: [Bikies] More thank yous Are these lanes at AASHTO standard widths ? I'm hoping that Midvale is not setting a precendent for defective bike lanes. -darin On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 1:58 PM, Troy Thiel <[email protected]> wrote: Thanks too for the widened bike lane on E Johnson....and also too for the convex ( or is it concave ) mirror placed at the blind turn under John Nolen on the trail near Olin Turnville Park so bike/ped traffic knows what's coming! Anyone know when the Badger Trail opening ceremony is set for? From: Michael Rewey <[email protected]> Subject: [Bikies] Thank You No. 2 - Northside Bike Lanes To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected] Date: Friday, August 27, 2010, 10:15 AM Bike lanes have been marked on Fordem Avenue between East Johnson and Northfield Place! Bike lanes have also been marked on Anderson Street between Pearson Street and Wright Street! Thank you! Thank you! These are only the fourth and fifth bike lanes on the deficient northside. The first were marked on two short blocks of Packers Ave between Darwin Road and Tennyson Lane in the mid 1990's. Earlier this summer lanes were marked on Commercial and International Lane. Keep it up... Mike Rewey Michael W. Rewey 5522 Comanche Way Madison, WI 53704-1026 home: 608.249.6673 cell: 608.698.6673 [email protected] _______________________________________________ Bikies mailing list [email protected] http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org _______________________________________________ Bikies mailing list [email protected] http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org -- .......... -darin _______________________________________________ Bikies mailing list [email protected] http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org
