Robbie,

I really like the idea!  

Another idea that could be in addition to a die-hard idea-swapping fashion show 
(love it, Robbie!) is to do this as a repeatable event at various local bike 
shops.  The shops provide a space and some nibbles (can they provide free 
beer??), shop sound system, etc. and in exchange we bring potential WINTER 
BIKING and WINTER BIKE ACCESSORY/GEAR customers into their shops for a fun 
event.  We could have a simple "runway" set up, maybe someone with a bright 
bike light lighting the "model", and some cool background music.

It's funny.  Ali and I have put on several winter biking clinics over the 
years.  We try to cast a wide net as far as announcements.  And then every year 
I have folks ask me why we don't hold these types of events.  How do we reach 
the interested parties who don't seek out bike-related event notices or tend to 
be so overwhelmed with event postings that they miss the ones they'd be 
interested in?  

That was sort of a rhetorical question.... but I'm still hopeful that we might 
try to figure out a solution.  I think it's the lynch pin for moving toward the 
goal of 20by2020.

-India

On 09/27/10, Robbie Webber  <[email protected]> wrote:

> I'd like to suggest that we have a winter bike gear "fashion show." We all 
> have our techniques, favorite pieces of clothing, tricks, and tips. Every 
> year this topic comes up, and we all write in with our ideas. 
> 
> 
> 
> In order to keep the biking energy going in the less-than-ideal biking 
> season, it would be fun to trade tips in person. Just pick a night/place and 
> grab a section of the restaurant/bar. Earlier in the week and earlier in the 
> evening might make it easier to find a chunk of unoccupied space at a bar.
> 
> 
> 
> When I have held classes on how to bike in winter, I always get the ringers 
> anyway: those that already bike in winter, and come to show off their gear. 
> 
> 
> Since the weather isn't that cold yet, we have time to plan this and try to 
> lure in the folks that tend to store the bikes when the first flakes fly, the 
> AM temps are below freezing, or the daylight is gone after work.
> 
> 
> 
> Maybe we can shoot for the week before Daylight Savings Time ends - the first 
> week of November. 
> 
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Robbie Webber
> Bike Walk Madison Steering Committee
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 12:17 PM, India Rose Viola <[email protected] 
> <[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Diane,
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Great questions.  Here are my thoughts/opinions:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > It's important to have a wind proof barrier for hands and feet. It's also 
> > important to be able to maintain circulation- which means making sure your 
> > mittens/gloves and shoes/socks are not too tight.  you may need to make a 
> > conscious effort to wriggle your toes, bend and flex your ankles, wiggle 
> > your fingers and change hand position on the handlebars every minute or so 
> > in order to keep the warm blood flowing to your extremities.  Also, if your 
> > core isn't warm, your body won't bother trying to keep your hands and feet 
> > warm- it has its priorities.  So make sure you are warm from head to neck, 
> > from neck to waist, from shoulder to wrist... you get the point.  One less 
> > obvious gear choice for keeping your hands warm is studded tires.  With 
> > studded tires, you are able to ride on packed snow and ice without the fear 
> > of slipping and falling and you will be able to hold the handlebars more 
> > loosely- leading to warmer hands.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > In the winter I wear water proof hiking boots (admittedly quite expensive) 
> > that are large enough for me to comfortably wear medium-thick wool socks 
> > underneath.  My feet stay warm... but my commute is much shorter than yours 
> > (5 miles each way).  That said, sometimes I have a bit of a cold start and 
> > usually get warmer as I pass the 2 mile mark.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I do recommend the "lobster"-style gloves for your hands.  For the coldest 
> > of cold days, they need to be made for cycling and not other outdoor 
> > activities (running, x-country skiing) that have increased hand movement 
> > and less exposure to driving wind.  The same glove that will keep your 
> > hands warm on a -30 degree day on a windy bike ride will be too warm for 
> > anything much warmer than that.  I usually bring at least 2 pairs of gloves 
> > on my commute with me- sometimes 3- light, medium, and heavy weight-  
> > because my hands sometimes get warmer/colder during my ride, and the day 
> > often starts out one temperature and finishes at another.  Make sure you 
> > have a good place to dry out all of your gear once you are at work (or 
> > other destination). Turning gloves inside out can help.  Bringing a change 
> > of socks is a must.  If I start to get overly sweaty during a ride I try to 
> > take the time at a red light to shed extra layers. Wet clothes, no matter 
> > what they are made of, are at best uncomfortable, at worst aiding and 
> > abetting heat loss.  My favorite technical fabric is Merino (or other soft) 
> > wool.  Hands down (I know, some folks can't wear wool- and others just 
> > prefer synthetics).
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > If you have more specific questions, I'd be happy to send you specs of the 
> > gear that I use.  Unfortunately a lot of it is several seasons old and may 
> > not exist as the current brand/model.
> > 
> > If you tell me what you currently wear on your hands and feet during the 
> > coldest weather I may be able to send you some more ideas.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Bear in mind that different people have different experiences of the cold.  
> > I tend to run "warm", so I usually try to add extra layers to my 
> > recommendations to other people.  Although advice from other experienced 
> > cyclists can be extremely helpful, this is an issue that has a unique 
> > solution for each individual- i.e. each person needs to experiment and find 
> > out what works best for them.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Good luck in staying warm on your bike all winter!
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -India
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On 09/27/10, Diane  <[email protected] <[email protected]>> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > Hi India,
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > I have yet to make one of these rides and meet you.  I saw this topic out 
> > > awhile ago and wanted to attend, but I have to ride back to Waunakee and 
> > > didn't plan well enough today to make it.
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > So, maybe you can help me out with my problem from last winter?? - I bike 
> > > 12.5 miles to work.  I bought some awesome PI pants last January, but I 
> > > just can't seem to solve my foot dilemma.  A friend suggested I cut the 
> > > sleeves off a down coat and make "booties" out of those and use those 
> > > under my duck boots - I haven't tried that yet.  Wool hiking socks work 
> > > well to about 20 degrees, but lose effect afterabout 30 minutes..
> > 
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > Fingertips are also a problem - I am thinking about buying some of those 
> > > split gortex gloves.
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > Thanks,
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > Diane
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > ---- India Rose Viola <[email protected] <[email protected]>> wrote:
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