All I know is, a friend of mine who commutes daily from Middleton to campus all 
winter has used these tires for many years, and recommends them.  I tried his 
bike once and was satisfied with their performance, but I'll keep what you've 
said in mind.

On 09/29/10, "STRAWSER, Charles"  <[email protected]> wrote:

> I have a pair of Nokian Extremes, and I can't really recommend them for
> commuting on mostly streets and paths that are mostly plowed. They have too
> many studs too far out from the centerline (contact patch) of the tire, so
> leaning the bike over even a bit on pavement that is dry (or even dusted with
> a bit of snow) actually gives you considerably LESS traction, since even
> carbide studs don't bite into concrete or asphalt much. Trust me on this. I
> ruined the sleeve/shoulder of a Carhart jacket testing this, and I was lucky
> that's all I ruined.
> 
> They're really designed for racing on ice and/or packed snow.
> 
> This is not to say that I don't recommend studded tires for winter commuting;
> I do. I just don't think this particular model is will suited for commuting.
> 
> The Nokian brand studded tires do last a very long time, even when ridden six
> months of the year, and are generally far superior to the other brands, which
> often use studs that are not carbide, and wear down much faster.
> 
> For commuting, the models you want are the Mount and Ground (160 stud) for
> bikes that fit 26x1.75" tires and bigger, and the Hakkapelliitta (106 stud)
> tires for bikes that fit 700x38 (they're marked 700x35, but they're actually
> bigger).
> 
> Nokian's website also lists a Hakkapelita that fits 26" wheels, and Hakka and
> other models with more studs, or similar studs , but in practice I've never
> seen it available in the states. http://www.suomityres.com/winter.html
> 
> Beware of the IRC and Nashbar brands. Nokian's are actually cheaper in the
> long run since you can use them so much longer. I acquired a pair of
> Hakkapelita's USED, and still rode them for more than a decade's worth of
> winters, and in the end I quit using them not because I wore the studs down,
> but installing and removing them so many times eventually wore through the
> rubber securing the steel bead to the tire, and I had problems with the
> exposed steel bead abrading the tube inside.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> 
> FYI: An online seller, Tree Fort Bikes, has a good deal on Nokian Extreme
> studded tires 294 26 x 2.1 (66 apiece, free shipping); however, they are
> back-ordered until Oct 15.  I've ordered a pair, in anticipation of winter.  
> -- 
> Harry Read
> _______________________________________________

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