Great video.  Something I used to fight internally at times in WisDOT.  I got 
some converts.

http://www.strongtowns.org/journal/2010/12/7/conversation-with-an-engineer-street-
project.html

There is some similarity on the East Wash Project  (Thierer to East Springs) 
which is having 
a Public Information Meeting tonight at the WisDOT district office.

The current lanes are 12 feet.  The city wants them reduced to 10 feet except 
for the lane 
next to the proposed bike lane which would be reduced to 11 feet.  WisDOT is OK 
with that.

But... an indvidual (engineer) at FHWA won't accept 10 foot lanes, even though 
the rest of 
east Wash was rebuilt with 10 foot lanes.  They are not safe.  FHWA will 
reluctantly accept 
11 foot lanes - they still prefer 12 foot. 

Here's a kicker.  The bikes lane will be barely 5-1/2 feet because of the 11 
foot mandate.  
The bike lanes leading up to Thierer are 6 feet.

So WisDOT and City engineers want 10 feet, but FHWA engineer (with really no 
practical 
field experience, but controlling the $$) mandates 11 feet.  And bike lanes are 
not to the 
standard they should be.

Mike Rewey


On 9 Dec 2010 at 7:41, Mitchell Nussbaum wrote:

> You can also go to http://www.strongtowns.org/, where the video originated.
> 
> This looks like it might be a useful site.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Charles STRAWSER" <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2010 8:57:26 AM
> Subject: Re: [Bikies] Xtranormal video: Conversations with an Engineer.
> 
> 
> Okay, could someone share the general idea with those of us who can't view
> it because we're not subscribed to his page?
> 
> Is there a Fourth-Amendment-Friendly (i.e. not on Facebook, Myspace or any
> other privacy invasion site that requires a login) version of this somewhere?
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9BUyWVg1xI

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